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In Topic: Vertical sleeves - any use??

Today, 10:17 AM

the sticks are black,  so hiding them in a colored fabric sleeve isn't very visually appealing, it's still a shadow or dark line thru the graphics.


The purpose of this sleeve is to protect the sail, then mount the protection ONTO the sail and don't mess with the frame members at all.


This is a solution, but not in the direction I would travel.


By the time the sail fabric has cracked, the rest of the kite is beat-up as well.  Why bother?, this is not going to extend the life by two years!


Reinforcing patches at the leading edge, now that is good use of materials, labor and weight and it will make a difference in life-span on your kite too

In Topic: Sunfest 2014

Yesterday, 04:37 PM

Thurs to Monday, maybe longer if BB is happy

In Topic: Vertical sleeves - any use??

12 September 2014 - 09:46 AM

Dave Ashworth does this too, but his efforts are more to lock the sail/framing combination together more rigidly, rather than worrying about stress cracks in the fabric.


If you frame real light (he's the king of "stand on 1 foot & fly" kite builders) then the sticks can flex under extremely demanding control motions.  Dave addresses these concerns by using a long bridle, sometimes a restrictor lines between the two wings too, depending on the design.  


His efforts at adding fabric loop sleeves on the sail are quite common as well.  They have to be incorporated into the design visually but they don't have to run the whole length of the spar to be effective.  


You just catch a couple inches of down-spar at the top and bottom of the sail in mini-sleeves, plus a nice hunk (6-10 inches) in the center too.


I believe Eliot Shook is now crafting his masterpieces with this same insignia tape technique.  Both Bazzer and Shook are adding additional reinforcing tabs onto the leading edge sleeve on the high-end efforts.  


We all learn from each other and the sharing of design concepts and techniques of construction is wholeheartedly promoted in the family.


I used to build my own kites, but I cannot do it as well as the current crop of experts!  Luckily, they still allow me to influence their efforts and get what I need (if not exactly what I want or ordered ~ HA!~)

In Topic: Addicted to Shook Weaves

11 September 2014 - 02:38 AM

higher top wind range on 4 wraps compared to green race?  

Yes probably,

but I prefer a little flex and the snappier response of the greenies nevertheless until it's brutal weather


Trying\learning to fly two at once and the wife wasn't pleased when I wanted two custom Shook 75%ers at the same time.  I will need the sticks and bridles too, might as well throw on some new line-sets, yeah I'll try the fifty pound stuff also,...... oh she was not happy at all with that doubled-up invoice!


Smooth = shook mesh

In Topic: Addicted to Shook Weaves

10 September 2014 - 02:55 AM

of the three shook versions I own, 40%, 75% and 100%, the best one in it's own conditions is probably the middle one.  


the 75% sits nicely, right between the mid vent & the full vent b-series, it has almost the full wind range of these two models (but you've paid a bunch extra too, so you should be getting that!)


If you can only afford one of Eliot's masterpiece Rev kites, the 75% is the model I'd recommend


The one I'd never ever use is the 135% in my local conditions.  I'd need to live nearby the Shook Palace to use that kite enough to justify the expense!


Another personal preference?, that's the best part about flying rev kites,... how far you can push in the direction of your choice.