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In Topic: Total newbie questions. Please help!

13 September 2014 - 07:27 AM

The above excellent answers about the 1.5 series address your primary preferences of some pull, moderate speed, precision, and wide wind range using a couple types of frames, These characteristics also make the 1.5 series very easy to learn to fly and to participate in group or team flying.


Your favorite dual line flying is diving straight down and turning sharply to skim along the ground. All the Revs will do the dive stop and dive/turn/skim type stuff. The Super Sonic and B2 will do that stuff with more speed and give you an adrenaline rush, when that is your goal. They are more suitable for your second, third, ..... or Nth kite, since they have more speed and less precision than the 1.5 series.


B2 is my personal favorite, but I seldom fly in groups and have a preference for twitchy and speed over precision and slow. The Rev 2 (predecessor to the B2) was my first Rev and was able to learn how to fly with it (admittedly with more difficulty than a 1.5 would have been). The Super Sonic pulls hard in higher winds. The B2 pulls light in higher winds. Both have vented versions if you want to fly in gales.


My wife's favorite beach town is a kite boarder spot with winds often over 30 mph and too much for even the B2 for any length of time. I was often frustrated with the high winds until I got a vented Rev 2, which I can fly for hours in 30-35 mph winds, with decent control and able to most tricks except slack line tricks (which I don't do in light winds either). I usually stop flying because I'm tired of eating sand, not due to tired muscles. When that kite wears out, I'll get a vented B2.

In Topic: It's Here!

11 April 2014 - 05:32 PM

You'll also think the kite is possessed if you launch with the left and right side handles in the opposite hands!!!

In Topic: About the Pulling power of a Rev kite, and some background story

18 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

SLE is super leading edge, which is a larger diameter and heavier frame with very little flex compared to the 2 & 3 wrapped frames. The SLE takes more wind and has less precision (more twitch from gusts and beginner flailing) than the 2 & 3 wrapped frames. The SLE was the normal frame before the B series of 1.5s came along. Most fliers that had kites with SLE frames replaced them with 3 wrap, 4 wrap, or a combo of 2&3 wrap for a leading edge.


I'm one of the few that still likes the SLE frame when there is enough wind for it. The extra mass makes it easier to toss the kite around when momentum is needed. That makes cartwheeling further to the edge of the window easier and better side slides. However, I don't fly in groups or need the extra precision and control that the 2 & 3 wrap provide.

In Topic: About the Pulling power of a Rev kite, and some background story

17 March 2014 - 07:51 AM

I can't tolerate too much pull. I only fly SUL and some UL dual line kites; the standard versions beat me to a pulp. For quad line, the B1.5 standard and vented and the B2 standard and vented cover all but the lightest wind range and keep the pull manageable. 


We go to Manzanita, OR every year, which is a popular kite boarding spot (high wind). I bought the vented B2, prior to that the vented Rev 2, for that beach. I can fly in 30 mph wind for several hours at a time. Before I got the vented 2s, I was grounded and frustrated most of the time.


As mentioned above, the vented versions smooth out the gusts and a beginner's flailing inputs. Also, the larger and slower 1.5 version is easier to learn on than the 2. I learned on a Rev 2, without anyone to show me the ropes, except for the inverted hover. At a festival, someone told me I was over-controlling (too big of inputs) and that solved the inverted hover problem.

In Topic: Supersonic Questions

14 March 2014 - 09:21 AM

Super sonic has very fast side slides, too, in addition to fast forward and reverse as mentioned above. Inverted side slides inches off the ground are a thrill. I mostly use 85' 90# line and sometimes 150#, but I usually don't fly in higher winds.


I'd fly this kite more, but the pull is too much for my old body. Much above 12 mph for any length of time beats me to a pulp. Much below 8 mph it loses the speed and control that makes it a thrill to fly. In other words, the sweet spot is 8-12 mph for my preferences.