Jump to content


Member Since 30 Jul 2012
Offline Last Active Nov 06 2015 08:42 PM

#96711 Race Rods

Posted by dragonfish on 06 November 2015 - 08:42 PM

And to prevent further confusion wink.png the travel frame is 10 rods because each one is half the length of a regular rod.  So, when it's all put together, you end up with the same framing in the kite whether you're using a travel frame or not.  

#95992 SUL as my first Rev?

Posted by dragonfish on 02 February 2015 - 09:03 PM

Lessons from another flier will definitely speed up your learning curve by a lot and reduce initial frustration (if any).  Once you get the hang of things, then by all means fly by yourself as much as you want.  I get it.  Sometimes I just want to ignore the rest of the world and fly a kite.  


There should be a few members on this forum from Australia.  One is already on this thread.  The ones I can think of are on the west coast, but maybe they know someone or can help you find someone near you to get you started on the right foot.  


Happy flying.  

#95909 Global Rev Count.

Posted by dragonfish on 04 January 2015 - 06:25 PM

Joanna, that kite looks amazing in the air. Very Nice!




That's a beauty ! ani_victory.gif


Thanks guys.  

#95861 SUL as my first Rev?

Posted by dragonfish on 25 December 2014 - 05:53 PM

Hi Jonathan, and welcome.

I started with an EXP, so can't answer your first question.

For light wind performance, there are framing options that are lighter than the 2 wrap frame. Rev has the diamond frame, or you can cut and assemble a frame from SkyShark P90 sticks. I think a lighter frame and pilot skill will make more of a difference in light winds than the difference in sail material between the EXP and B series.

I got my EXP as a RTF package. It came with LPG 90# line, which is good line that many people use. I stil use that line set. My other line sets, purchased later, are also LPG. If you can, check with your local shops what line comes with the RTF packages. Sometimes shops make their own packages, so the most accurate answer would be to ask them. LPG and Skybond are both good line and commonly used in the US. There might be other good line available elsewhere that I'm not familiar with.

While it may sound like I'm trying to convince you to start with an EXP, that is not my intention. I hope you get the info you need to make your own decision. You should get the one YOU want (and like to look at), and when you want it.

Good luck and happy flying.

#95855 Global Rev Count.

Posted by dragonfish on 24 December 2014 - 03:56 PM

dragonfish +1 (6) - Shook mesh 135%

Exciting to see all these new Shook meshes people are getting. Can't wait to fly mine.

#95624 Another Newbie here....

Posted by dragonfish on 27 October 2014 - 07:40 PM

If you haven't already seen them, John Barresi has a series of Rev tutorials from beginner to advanced level.  All of the beginner tutorials can be found via http://kitelife.com/...y-19-quad-line/ .  The full list of tutorials can be found at http://kitelife.com/...oor-quad-line/.  You do need to be a KiteLife subscriber to download them from the second link, but supposedly they can be loaded onto a mobile device for (re)viewing on the field if desired.  


Good luck.  And yes, Revs are quite different from dual line kites, and meeting with others will definitely speed up your learning curve.  

#95607 B-Serie with green race frame

Posted by dragonfish on 26 October 2014 - 11:59 PM

Today, someone lent me a black race set to play with.  (Previously, I had only flown with the black race frame briefly and on an OPK.)  When he handed the sticks to me, I was surprised by how light they were.  My first reaction was, are these lighter (in weight) than 2 wrap sticks?  Based on this, I can see why Heino thought black race was for light wind only, but like others said it is not that fragile.  I was surprised because I hadn't heard much about the black race frame being light, just that it responds differently from a 2 or 3 wrap frame.  Just goes to show that you may find out more from playing with things yourself than from impressions based on what you have heard/read.  Like stroke survivor said, you have to give things a try to see how they feel for you.  


In terms of ordering the frames from light to strong wind, there is going to be some (a lot of?) overlap between sticks of different characteristics.  For example, 2 wrap < 3 wrap < 4 wrap is obvious, as is black race < green race (and P-90 < P-200 < P-300 < P-400 if you are using SkyShark sticks).  But, combining 2/3/4 wrap and black/green race into one ordering is a lot less clear and possibly somewhat based on personal preference or flying style because the frames behave somewhat differently.  I know people who think the black race frame will fly in lower winds than the 2 wrap frame.  I personally feel the opposite right now.  



P.S. The diamond frame is Rev's 0-3 mph or so frame.  

#95348 Inverted Flying

Posted by dragonfish on 04 September 2014 - 07:54 PM

Stepping back helps keep the kite moving up without moving your hands, thus keeping the kite more steady.  Stepping forward when there's enough (or a lot of) wind helps take some of the pressure off so you don't have to fight the wind as much, also steadying your hands.  For me, the windier it is, the harder it is to rise inverted and the harder I have to push down with my thumbs.  Sounds like the OP is feeling the same.  The wing tip flip means you've pushed too hard.  The way I see it, walking forward means you're slightly reducing the wind speed relative to the kite, which means you don't have to push your thumbs as hard, which means you're further from the tipping (i.e. flipping) point.  Good luck.  

#94578 New Rev

Posted by dragonfish on 07 March 2014 - 11:28 PM

Oh I remember taking my EXP out in winds that were "yeah that's got to be JUST inside the upper range".... The abuse I put that kite through. Still flies though.


Oh yea, I remember those days too.  I still remember one BASKL clinic back when I only had my EXP.  The wind was picking up as the day went on, as per the usual weather pattern.  By mid afternoon, most people had vented kites out, and someone said to me something like, "I'm surprised you're still flying that."  My reply was, "I've only got one kite!"  Gotta make what you have work when you don't have options.  I can see stretch marks on that kite now, but yup, it still flies and it's still in my bag.  In fact, there's another BASKL clinic tomorrow and it's going to be my teaching kite for other people to learn on.  


To the OP, congrats.  Nice choice.  Be sure to share pictures when you get it out, as I'm sure lots of us want to see more picture of the new design.  

#93939 Bridle stretch

Posted by dragonfish on 30 October 2013 - 10:39 PM

Another thing to watch out for is extra knots that have stealthily worked their way into the bridle.  This happens to me on the bottom line attachment points (from the kite flapping around when packing up I'm guessing).  The short segment that you attach a bottom line to works its way around the bridle and itself, creating an extra knot right on top of the existing knot that creates that short segment, making them hard to find unless you look really closely.  I hope that made sense...not looking at a kite right now.  


One time I switched from flying full vent to standard, and then my kite wouldn't behave.  I couldn't find anything wrong with it on the field and compensated just like you did by adjusting to uneven leaders, so I suspected something was wrong with the bridle.  When I got home, I took the frame out of the kite and folded it in half to compare all the bridle lengths (saves taking the bridle off the kite, and works well enough for me).  That's how I found the extra knot.  


Good luck.  

#93684 Global Rev Count.

Posted by dragonfish on 06 October 2013 - 11:33 PM

Is this list still being updated?  I'd hate to see it die off after this many posts.  


In any case, just got my B-Pro set (pics in the Photos of your B-series Pros thread).  Standard, mid vent, and full vent.  So...


dragonfish - +3 (5)

#93683 Photos of your B-series Pros

Posted by dragonfish on 06 October 2013 - 11:26 PM

Finally got my B-Pros today (took a bit longer than expected), just barely in time for the AKA National Convention.  I enjoyed looking at all the pics here, so I'll share mine too.  


Here's the full vent by itself

B-Pro full vent
The whole set (hmm...I just realized the light gray panels and the venting mesh against the white wall look almost the same color)
B-Pro set
Mid vent ready to launch
B-Pro mid vent
In the air
B-Pro mid vent again

#92939 What is this team maneuver called?

Posted by dragonfish on 05 June 2013 - 08:23 PM

Thanks everyone for the replies.  


I never realized this originated(?) as a dual line team move.  


My next question was going to be about some execution details, but the link to the animation answered it already.  :)