I haven't looked up how far apart you are, but let me say this ... Getting with someone for some hands on time together makes a massive difference.
I know people who have wasted a year because they didn't take a short flight and get to understand even the right way to setup the kite.
That's not to say you can't do it alone - that was the only way I had when I started. Now that I am reasonably experienced and educated, you should see how fast people learn and integrate things when I can show them hands on.
I'll bet the 'lots of people fly on it' refers mostly to single line flying ... in which case you can fly on practically anything you like. When it comes to multi line, wraps and weaves .... that is a whole other ball game.
Another thing to keep in mind is that there are TWO types of stretch...
Permanent stretch is where the line gets a little longer and longer over time and you have to equalise your lines. This is often called creep.
Temporary stretch can be thought of like a bungee cord that will stretch under load and then return to normal when the load subsides. This type of stretch would make any degree of precision difficult since the line is constantly changing length with each input and causing variance in the degree of input required.
Just my pre-morning-tea input, so your mileage may vary
Oversteer is that slop in the bridle, the wiggle has to be overcome, thru opposite hand commands afterwards or pre-planned movements before
When I fly my conditions I actually feel it's more a case of the increased mass and load since it's WELL powered through the turns that oversteer. I started on the 1.5 size platform so the size is more of an anomily in my bag than something I flew way back when.
When I focus on counter steering on exit or precicely moderating my inputs to begin with then things improve, but I have to fly in a style different to the 1.5 .... at least on 50' of line anyway. I did have opportuninity to fly on 80' out here and 120' in the USA and things were much more in line than on the short lines in my conditions.
Do you also enjoy the smaller B2 on short lines? Many folks don't click w/ their Zen immediately, I never got along with the Rev1
Team flying on 50' lines?, bet that's a hoot,
I think I'm one of the few people who have put a video out flying the B2 actually
My experience with the Zen is that it does what it says on the tin - long line team kite. Sadly, this falls outside of what I need 99.999% of the time - I'm glad I own a Zen, but I could easily live without it. If I was flying on iQuad, Island Quad, 180Go, or any other team then I would insist on having one in the bag.
Most of the time I just go full sail with 30' lines and work 3D stuff .... and when that becomes too much like hard work, then it's time for the single line gliders.
My biggest mistake with the Zen was I had the wrong expectations of it ... I got it at a time when I was trying to solve my problems with equipment instead of developing low wind skills. After developing the skills I understood my expectations were unrealistic. I got to fly the Zen about a week or so ago actually and I am now able to fly it much better (and it made staying in the air SO much easier), but it's still not a straight line jump from the 1.5 platform to the Zen.
To own a Zen or not .... that depends what you want to do with it.
Since my hands are smaller than JB and because I want a constant reference point (where my thumb sits), my natural balance point is on my ring finger instead of my middle finger ... but the same methodology still applies.
I have been flying long enough and gained enough experience and skill that my hand can be alive and change in the moment to achive a bias towards a specific mechanic that I want to enhance in that specific moment ... but these are merely temporary changes aimed at a specific task.
In addition to the video mentioned above, you probably want to take a look at these as well...
All good advice, but just to reiterate ... do not underestimate JB's tutorial videos. John is one of those people who not only has an extremely thorough technical understanding of all aspects in play, but he is also able to articulate that information very well.
I've had him fix a problem I had in one sentence which likely saved me months of doing things the hard way and (hopefully) eventually figuring it out. I still had to go out and put what he said into practice, but once you have the correct knowledge practice basically means go out and have fun
Based on my measurements this weekend, the weight range from my latest B-Pro to a factory B is less than 10 grams. This was measured with the frames included and with a kitchen grade digital scale. Frame variance is probably about 1-2 grams total in my experience so I don't bother about it.
While I have weighed probably every aspect of a Rev (a bridle is 7 grams if you were wondering) ... low end flying, where weight matters, is 95% down to pilot skill. Swallowing a spoonful of cement to harden up and just get out there and work on thos skills is a far better investment than weighing everything ;-)
For me, unless the rev is facing the ground during it's rotation it's not an axel - it's nothing more than yanking a line and letting the kite 'bicycle spin' with slack lines (which to my eye is neither pretty nor a trick).
By my own standards, my axel attempts fail more often than not ... but I don't work on it too often since it's hard to get it flat (as it should be) and the chances of a person not knowlegable about revs understanding it are very small.
I'm also a 30' guy ... like JB said, big enough to fly shapes or patterns, but short enough to get the job done.
My exception (space not withstanding) is that horrible circumstance where the 'wind' is constantly shifting directions (usually breathing back and forth with gusts from random directions in between) and I need to be able to do a 180 (horizontal or up and over) in a heartbeat because I'm suddenly on the wrong side of the window. In this case I am currently developing my skills on 12' lines, but my intention is to be able to stretch back out to 30' lines.
The two instances where I think 12' works are near zero wind (check Youtube for JB rev'ing it in Singapore) and/or when you interact with the environment to make it interesting (check Youtube for JB in the UK).
A good contrast can be seen in Watty's 'Friendly Neighbourhood Street Flyer' video
The 1.5 is the better all around platform and where I spend 90% of my time, but the fun of the 2 is often overlooked.
My stack came into being so that I could do more with the B2 set I had so that they got more airtime. The set is both a stack and solo pieces.