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In Topic: Adjusting for reverse flight

21 November 2008 - 06:38 AM

Thanks for the encouragement Choccy! I have the same Rev as you too! I've just ammended my profile with a photo of it & me.

I really find flying in lighter winds much more pleasant. I don't mean so light you're struggling to keep it in the air but when the wind is strong, even with storng wrists and arms the kite just takes off very quickly with the slightest extra gust. I also wonder if there's a diifernet quality to a seabreeze and inland continental depression type winds. Acheiving the kind of stuff that we all hanker after on the You tube videos of iQuad and Les Flics seems like pie flying in the sky to me!

Speaking of those incredibles videos have you checked these two guys out?

I love this guys style. It's vivacious, upbeat, original and dynamic.


This second guy moves from graceful to quick, with precision and style. I love the horizontal pirouette slide at around 1' 14".


What do you think?

CU and take care,


In Topic: Adjusting for reverse flight

09 November 2008 - 03:22 PM

I'm more concerned that my best man was called Julian and comes from Staines but I lost touch with him... Hmmm!!!

Bad news is Jeepster is right ..... we have all been where you are now!! ... the only thing to add is read the threads about handle leaders and using more break... Not sure what kite/handles you have but going to maximum break on my standard B-series handles has transformed the way I fly and in particular makes reverse flight natural an inverted hovers easier then upright!

oh and Welcome onboard!

Sorry that I've been absent for so long! I've been a best man so it can't be me. I went to Abbotsford county secondary at the end of the seventies. Makes me feel old!!
I've really got hold of inverted flight now. I've also got a vented and love it! I really feel the two versions are very different. In a strong wind the vented is like caressing a woman whilst the non-vented is like riding a horse! I know which I prefer: and I'm not into equitation or beastiality! The knot positions are really helpful and make flying much more pleasurable with top line 2nd knot in.

Thanks to all that commented on my initial question.


In Topic: Adjusting for reverse flight

04 September 2008 - 12:33 PM

Well I'm amazed at how much conversation that generated!

Thanks to everyone for their personal replies. It seems my Bridle position is normal and I'm pleased that 10 and a 1/2 inches is standard for a Rev pilot down below!!

I have seen the error of my ways and promise to practice and stop making excuses.

Here's Watty's comprehensive reply, although I would like to thank everyone who wrote to me:

There are three things that you could do to help with your problem.

1. Check your handles. What handles are you using? Did they come with a 1.5, B-Series, rev 1, etc? You can make adjustments by tying knots on the thick line attached to the handles, then pulling back the top or bottom lines. These thick lines are called pigtails. If you pull the bottom lines back farther, you will have more break, and if you pull the top lines farther back, you will have more thrust. Mess around with different adjustments to find what suits you.

2. Reverse is all about technique. Less is more. If you try and man-handle the kite in reverse, it will over-control (the wings will flip out and the kite will do some weird thing where you cant control it until it hits the ground). When reversing to to top of the wind window (The area of sky that you are able to fly in) it does become much difficult, especially in lighter winds. What I do to reverse to the top of the window is spin my hands so my thumbs are down, and pinkies are up, then lead the kite up.

3. The most important thing is practice. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE! Everything comes in time.

All of that was very helpful and I'm very grateful.

I'm using a 1.5 B series with all the 'pigtrails' and after trying 'Last knot on top and bottom', I moved the top line to the second knot which felt comfortable for me.
The wind was very light today so I flew with the two wrap spars. Although there was sometimes not really enough wind, I felt that a light breeze was better for learning: it gives you more time and sensitivity. What I also noticed was that when the kite's panoeuvres were executed cleanly the sail kept taught and this greatly helped in keeping it stable upside down. I still had problems keeping it inverted all the time, also form staying high but did manage to reverse it up on several occasions. I estimate the wind speed was around 5 mph today. The last time I flew it was around 20 mph which was a little too strong!! So, I'm looking forward to having a nice moderate wind to practise in.

Just in case this interests any of you I like this site to get a wind forecast.


Clicking on the map in the right places takes right ot where you need!! Very nice.



In Topic: Adjusting for reverse flight

04 September 2008 - 04:56 AM

Hi to everyone! I'm having problems with reversing the rev too but first I'd just like to give you a quick intro to myself. :blue-confused:

My name is Julian, I'm British (From Staines) but I live in Nancy, France. I love all sorts of stuff: remote control aircraft and helicopters, magic, playing the guitar, golf and all sorts of other stuff too. Obviously the only problem with all of this is that I never have enough time to do all these things regularly!! I'm new to Revolutions and kiting jargon in general so I apologise if my vocab is not up to spec.

Anyway, enough of the intro and back to the topic before I send you all to sleep.

I can make the Rev reverse horizontally but the same stalling sort of problem that Bob is having applies when I get it upside down. If the kite is high up it will come down fairly rapidly to around 3 to 5 metres (9 to 16 ft) from the ground. From there it becomes unstable and consistently wants to correct itself to the upright position. I also find that I can stall a tip pretty easily but that may be normal but because I don't have any other previous experience or contacts here I can't check that.

In reading this thread I see that nobody has directly mentioned the anchor points on the kite. My idea is that if you change the position of the bottom anchor point, nearer to/or further from, the end of the vertical spar, perhaps the reverse control is affected. I imagine this will affect the amount of flex that will be induced on the spar and probably the angle of attack and wonder if this isn't exactly what is needed.

So the acid test. How far is the knot for your bottom anchor point on your bridle from the loop in the Ferrule?

In measuring mine, I have put the end of the ruler on the nearest side of the knot to the end of the spar, pulled the bridle taught and measured to the nearest side of the ferrule where the bridle passes through it.

My left and right sides are not identical: Left is 27cm and the right 26.5 cm. That is approximately 10" 5/8 and 10" 1/2 respectively.

I suppose that there must be some kind of template in the revolution workshop to tie these in the same position but wonder if discrepancies can occur and cause this problem.

I hope this is pertinent and useful.

I look forward to hearing from you!!

Best regards,

Jules :kid_smartass: