The ZEN is big and slower. For one who learned to fly on a REV 1.5, you will have a lot to get use to. I learned on a REV I, long before a REV 1.5 was available.
50# lines are too light for ZEN unless your into zero wind flying.
Line length for starters, use lines in the range of 80-100 ft. Later you can use the shorter lines with ease.
Experiment with different rods. The most beautiful rods are unquestionably the ZEN rods. However I prefer using in general the green race rods. Also the normal 3 wrap rod I find is quite nice.
For those of us who started on the Rev1 the Zen offers additional sail area and so further 'stability' and light wind viability but compared to the 1.5 sails the 'turning' speed is slow. The 1.5 flier is likely to pull the larger sail out of the air rather than 'wait' for the kite to complete the turn. The Decs preferred the larger sails in order to 'fill the sky' and so would often fly to the upper wind limits rather than taking the easier option of the smaller sail...
I am not sure that I understand your anxiety. I have been happy to help here and on the field. Ashley and Rowan (my sons) both decided to fly Revolution Kites without any influence/pressure from me! Ashley is calling the team of late...
Ok Felix, I have done my first bit of research and I now know about Zen and The Robertshaw versions, but what are diamond spars, I have read about the Race ones, but not the diamond
Diamond rods are just out! All the info is here in the forum so far! I see you've looked at both of the "bigger" models (Rev 1 sized), have you looked at anything smaller? The 1.5 size has had almost all the modifications thrown it's way and is probably the most used platform by Revheads! The bigger and smaller sizes are compliments to that size! Worth a look!!
Ben at Revolution keeps on developing new spars <grins> and it is quite hard to keep up and fully appreciate the characteristics of each new rod. The Diamond rods do seem to have considerable advantages over the race rods in light wind flying with the 1.5 sail. I have not tried them in the smaller or larger sail sizes at this stage.
I just did a very simple 'test' of the Race and Diamond spars. Holding both spars firmly/partially on a table top I deflected both by the same amount and listened to the frequency of the vibrations. I could not verify the actual force of the deflection but the pitch of vibration suggests that the Diamond rod returns to neutral much more quickly than the standard race by virtue of pitch of vibration. <grins>
These items are great tubes for tough conditions, worked well in low wind and can take a beating when others were using Green Race frames I stayed on Diamonds
I can't wait to get my travel set for another round of comparisons
Thanks for the observation. I hate testing to destruction so it is good to know there is some leeway. I handed my kite with the diamond rods to an inexperieced flier last Sunday and was impressed to see him cope with team flying in low wind conditions.
Does anyone know local regulations for Beach flying close to the National Hotel in Miami Beach?
I will be there for 10 days at the beginning of December on a work based trip so it would be good to know what is possible. Jacob will be there as well so if there are local fliers maybe we could arrange an early morning gig!
PS We will be staying close to the convention centre!
I'm hoping it's only temporary. Each member should form a new team. Imagine the possibilities.
If only it was that simple. Forming a team is far from trivial. A mix of circumstance, vision and luck comes into play. The Decorators were lucky to find a 'graphical' identity in Jørgen Møeller Hansen's designs for the Revolution and othe kites that the team flies.