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[DWayne]

I'm getting ready to make some line sets and was wondering what line you like to use. With my dual line kites I use Shanti. My Revs came with Laser Pro Gold. The LPG seems to be stiffer and not as slick as the Shanti.
I've never used Berry Blue.
Thanks for your input.

Denny

[Baloo]

I use mainly LPG from Theresa at The Kite Shoppe thank you Theresa) she makes a wicked line set. I am fairly sure she could supply you with line, but then there are lots of other places out there that might be closer to you.

I wanted to make some line sets up myself and could not get LPG here so have cone for Climax Pro Tek. Made some sets but not used any as yet.

From reading other posts on here I am sure you will get lots of good advice.

[REVflyer]

that laserpro gold wirey-stiffness is an advantage!

I've used thousands of feet worth of every kind of line,

there's a good reason the Rev factory ships their kites with LPG only.

Next time you have a big pile of slack lines laying on the ground, notice how the LPG fails to tangle-up?

I use it indoors and out, regardless of the lengths. I also strongly recommend others to use it with their quads.

NO SLEEVING either, although that's a purely a personal preference. I do throw my kites around aggressively, so that crap is another tangle point I just don't need!

Ninety pound strength is all you need, unless you're flying the larger speed series kites routinely.

[MrDenny]

I like the idea of no sleeving. How do you tie on the ends?

[dave b]

NO SLEEVING either, although that's a purely a personal preference.

Is sleeving not required with LPG ?
Thought the reason for the sleeving was to stop line breaking at the knot.
What about other lines, shanti etc.

Dave

[Kitelife]

LPG is way to fly, iQuad uses it exclusively.

We sleeve, just out of principle and ease of handling...

But I've never broken tied (sleeve free) spectra at the knot, not in my 18 years of flying duals and quads.

Lines have always worn out first.

[REVflyer]

you tie the sleeve-less knot with a pair of forceps

you're making a loop to larkshead, but at the very end of the loop is an overhand knot, so you have something to grab onto when releasing from the pig-tail.

Start with the end of the line pinched in the forceps. Now go around the forcep length twice, to measure your loop. "Pinch" at the new mark and place a single overhand knot next to the jaws of the forceps. Now place a doubled overhand knot next to the first one and really snug it into place, by wankin' on the two ends.

Last, fold-over the 2 loose ends together and tie a figure-of-eight knot to finish the loop.

nothing will slip, it's easily repeatable, nothing to snag when doing slack line stuff and it's strong enough for my weak efforts in flight too!

[Watty]

All of my outdoor linesets are LPG and sleeved, but my indoor linesets are 50# shanti speed (Because I could not get some 50# LPG at a single store in Long Beach ) without sleeves, just because I was being lazy.

[jay]

While on the subject of Linesets does anyone know if and where 120ft 90lb Laser Pro Gold linesets are available in the UK.

[Baloo]

I tried to get some LPG here Jay with no luck.

Could try Mike at Kiteworld, dont know if he has any LPG.

I ordered mine from Theresa at thekiteshoppe.com she makes a good lineset up to any length.

[jay]

I tried to get some LPG here Jay with no luck.

Could try Mike at Kiteworld, dont know if he has any LPG.

I ordered mine from Theresa at thekiteshoppe.com she makes a good lineset up to any length.

Thanks Quad Head
Emailed Stephen at Kiteworld not availabe here yet, just emailed Theresa awaiting reply

[Watty]

Theresa is deffinately the best choice.

[Baloo]

Sometimes it takes her a few days to get back to you as she is busy and out of the shop a lot with various events.

Also I have had best response from her when I have contacted her through the "form" on her web sight.

Hope it works out well for you.

If you are not in a rush give it a Month or so and I will probably be putting an order in with her. It might save on your postage.

If you are in a rush and dont mind paying full price for a slightly used (maybe 3 or 4 times) second hand set (as I would have to replace them although I have a non LPG set) I could post you mine and order a new set.

[Alex R]

Watty, the word is:

"definitely".

[jay]

Thanks Baloo
Not in any rush only ordered the Kites Yesterday but if Kiteworld up to their usual standard will have them by the end of the week.
Getting some 80ft lines with them so can practice or rather start to learn on them so if you can add a set of 120ft to your order will be gratefull. Just have to work out details how to pay and collect.
I couldn't deprive you of your fun so I can wait.

[Baloo]

No problem on that Jay. Can just post them on to you when they arrive and you can drop me the money back.

LPG are the best to go for I think.

I will mail you nearer the time to make sure you still need them.

[jay]

Thanks for that Chris look forward to hearing from you
Also can you tell me if the lines have to be the same length on a Rev 1 ( I think i read somewhere that they were different lengths but not sure )

[Baloo]

Depends how old your Rev 1 is Jay. The early ones had unequal top and bottom lines. I sorted that out by putting a pigtail about 6" long on the top bridle connection point.

Newr ones you fly on equal lines. 120' lines would be fine but you can fly any Rev on any length line to suit your flying style or space.

If you are going to be flying in high winds maybe you could do with 150 lb lines instead of the more usual 90 lb, there is an argument for using 150 lb on Rev 1's due to thier larger surface area.

I have the advantage that I have vented and non vented 1's and 1.5's so with both 90 and 150 lb lines I can cover most wind speeds.

[Stone in Shoe Bob]

Thanks Baloo
Not in any rush only ordered the Kites Yesterday but if Kiteworld up to their usual standard will have them by the end of the week.
Getting some 80ft lines with them so can practice or rather start to learn on them so if you can add a set of 120ft to your order will be gratefull. Just have to work out details how to pay and collect.
I couldn't deprive you of your fun so I can wait.

If you are a total novice, I wouldn’t rush to get 120ft lines, you will want to move up at some time, but for the first few weeks you will be far better off with the shorter lines that come with the kite. Though there is a lot less sky with the shorter lines, control and feel will be much more positive and you won't have so far to walk when thing go wrong.

Good luck and enjoy

[steveb]

^ Stone in Shoe Bob makes a very good point about line lengths for starting out on Revs.
The 'Walk of Shame' is very long on 120' lines and you can often find Spectra in 300' rolls, which makes a quad set of about 75'.
Line stretch on new sets (even with Laser Pro Gold) can become more of an issue on longer line sets, as even a few % stretching factor is magnified over longer lengths. You end up needing to adjust or equalize your lines more often.
Until I started hanging out with islandQuad, 75' was my "long set", as I usually flew on 50' or shorter.