Vented or not?
#1
Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:28 PM
I have a std B-series. Am contemplating a vented 1.5. The winds in my area are typically <13mph. Mostly in the 5-10mph range. I find the std B to be overpowering when winds are close to 10mpish and I've got both 2 and 3wraps LE together. It's too twitchy for my preference.
I'm thinking of a vented with 3wraps. I can add the 2 wraps from the B-series when needed. Do you guys fly with a vented in 10mpish winds? I've read the thread abt UL frames in venteds. Like the idea too.
Cheers
Clin
#3
Posted 03 January 2008 - 08:51 AM
As D Wayne says above,REALY NICE.
BRIAN...
#4
Posted 03 January 2008 - 08:59 AM
Clin, on Jan 2 2008, 11:28 PM, said:
Cheers
Clin
For sure. A vented 1.5 with two wrap frame flies very well in 10mph, or less. You will find a really big difference and it is very smooth. When the wind comes up, change to three wrap and if needed, simply add your two wrap to the leading edge.
You'll love it.
#5
Posted 03 January 2008 - 09:48 PM
Jim Foster, on Jan 4 2008, 12:59 AM, said:
You'll love it.
Thks guys! That's my plan. I'd skip the 4wraps since I'd hardly meet those types of winds that would render it. The B-series vented is a little too dear. Am settling for a normal vented.
Clin
#6
Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:35 AM
Clin, on Jan 4 2008, 05:48 AM, said:
Clin
I’m a bit confused. In the UK the standard B comes with Pro Use (2 wrap) and Ultra Light (3 wrap) frames and the vented comes with a second Ultra Light and a Rev Equipped (4 wrap) frame.
Are you considering a special order single “normal vented”, as by default a “normal vented” 1.5 comes with a Rev Equipped (4 wrap) frame with the thicker ˝ inch sle leading edge. By the time you have replaced the leading edge you may as well bite the bullet, get the vented B and then you will be able to have a matched pair that will cover all the bases.
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#7
Posted 04 January 2008 - 07:11 AM
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#9
Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:00 AM
Clin, on Jan 3 2008, 09:48 PM, said:
Clin
If you have your choice, choose a non-mylar vented version of the REV 1.5 whether it be a B or the SLE.
I personally have nothing against the SLE rods as they are quite good in very strong winds, however others will try to convince you other wise. If you don't want the SLE rods, I would suggest asking for the 4-wrap(Revolution Equipped) rods. They are great for those rare nastily strong winds.
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#11
Posted 04 January 2008 - 04:59 PM
#12
Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:07 PM
Stone in Shoe Bob, on Jan 4 2008, 10:35 PM, said:
Are you considering a special order single "normal vented", as by default a "normal vented" 1.5 comes with a Rev Equipped (4 wrap) frame with the thicker ˝ inch sle leading edge. By the time you have replaced the leading edge you may as well bite the bullet, get the vented B and then you will be able to have a matched pair that will cover all the bases.
Sorry for the confusion. I'm trying to get a non-mylar vented with all 3wraps rods. I've tried the SLE rods but don't like it, while the 4wraps would be overkill for the winds I have, I think. I can add the 2wraps in if required, much like Jim Foster's suggestion.
Cheers
Clin
#13
Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:00 PM
As you already have a 2 and 3 wrap frame with the B I wonder if it is worth considering ordering your non-mylar 1.5 V with Race rods?? I know it will cost you a few $ more but will further extend your flying flexibility??
As I understand it Race rods are almost in between 2 and 3 wrap for weight and fleibility with a slightly different "(re) action". I may be wrong though.
#14
Posted 05 January 2008 - 10:11 AM
Jay Nunes, on Jan 4 2008, 07:11 AM, said:
My personal favorite is to run a vented B with either race rods or 2 wrap. Then as the wind climbs change up through the spars. Then throw the 3 and four wrap in the leading edge. Then if you must the SLE. This will of course mean taking down your small banner that you have made to retrieve this broom stick
So I would suggest a vented B ( comes with three and 4 wrap)with a set of race rods.
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#15
Posted 05 January 2008 - 02:25 PM
My 2 cents,
Joe
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#16
Posted 06 January 2008 - 06:37 AM
XJJoe01, on Jan 6 2008, 06:25 AM, said:
My 2 cents,
Joe
I'd def love to have a matching vented B but alas, finance rules
Btw, would you guys think a vented B or 1.5 would be more similiar compared to a std B against a 1.5? Since the vents are almost similar and I guess the venting position/size would dominate more, I'd guess the flight characteristics would be closer?
Anyone?
Clin
#18
Posted 06 January 2008 - 07:44 PM
Clin, on Jan 6 2008, 10:37 AM, said:
Btw, would you guys think a vented B or 1.5 would be more similiar compared to a std B against a 1.5? Since the vents are almost similar and I guess the venting position/size would dominate more, I'd guess the flight characteristics would be closer?
Anyone?
Clin
I think the difference would be the same as between B-series standard and a 1.5sle. But, I have never flown a 1.5sle vented, just my B vent.
Joe
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#19
Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:05 AM
Bazzer, on Jan 5 2008, 06:11 PM, said:
So I would suggest a vented B ( comes with three and 4 wrap)with a set of race rods.
Bazzer
Right on Bazz...
Although It seems more expensive to purchase a B Series Vented Rev..
But It is not and here is why
You Receive two Full sets of Rods.
A 3 wrap set and a 4 wrap set.
These two sets were created for three different wind conditions
3 Wrap for med to high Winds 7 - 10 Mph (Give or take)
4 Wrap for high winds 10 - 15 Mph
Combining the 4 and the 3 wrap for Very High Winds. 15 Mph and Above
It's like have three kites..
If you Purchase a set or Race Rods it flies Fantastic in Med winds 4 - 7 Mph
Also the B Series Kites come with Handles that have Knotted Leaders
for increasing or decreasing the Amount of brake desired.
Basicly, your getting more Stuff for the money and it is Relatively the same price.
The Difference is... you get what you need from the start..
For me....This is the Kite to Purchase.
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#20
Posted 08 January 2008 - 05:31 AM
The Knotted leaders are EASY and CHEAP to make yourself.
The down side YOU DONT HAVE A B SERIES.
I have quite a few Revs in my bag. If I had been able to buy a B and a Bv as my first kites then I would not have as many kites!! Good for me, bad for Rev.
With the 2 B's in my bag I have Revs for ALL flyable wind ranges. 2 wrap, 2 x 3 wrap and 4 wrap with full and vented sails, a NEAT sail layout, what else could you need? Oh yes a Race Rod set and some flying lines!!

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