[Sailor99]

Jonesey, on May 5 2009, 11:42 AM, said:

There are a bunch of us 'Hampshire Hoverers' around here so a short trip up or down the A3 should get you sorted

For sure. Hardly any distance at all.

[Kitelife]

Ya, can't beat a side by side comparison with someone who is properly familiarized with the equipment.

[Jonesey]

Kitelife, on May 5 2009, 01:46 PM, said:

Ya, can't beat a side by side comparison with someone who is properly familiarized with the equipment.

Oh so not Jeremy or me then

[Sailor99]

Jonesey, on May 5 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

Oh so not Jeremy or me then

Actually I'm fine on that. Since I lost weight I have become familiarsized with the equipment again.

[Choccy]

Jonesey, on May 5 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

or me then

Maybe not, seeing as your rev seems to go around demolishing world famous landmark buildings in the process (in your updated avatar!)

P.S. hello Neil.... Welcome.
Like others have said you won't be disappointed starting out on a 1.5 B.
The rev 1 is slow and graceful and the rev II is fast but you can tame the twitchiness.
All are good fun.

[Jeepster]

Kitelife, on May 5 2009, 07:46 AM, said:

Ya, can't beat a side by side comparison with someone who is properly familiarized with the equipment.

John,

You forgot the rest of the story ... "and, whose equipment kite is properly set up."

My first flight was on a properly set up vented B-series kite. The owner's comment was something along the lines of "are you sure you've never flown before?"

After my own kite arrived it was two weeks of trial and error before I achieved the same level of controllability. There really should be a little yellow book for beginners ... "Kite Setup for Dummies". Many new flyers are being talked into starting with the B-series, and although the DVD covers many topics well, it doesn't really address how the handles should feel in your hands. But, on the other hand, I'd of missed the excitement of chasing the kite around the sky if the setup would have been correct.

Cheers,
Tom

[Jonesey]

Choccy, on May 5 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

Maybe not, seeing as your rev seems to go around demolishing world famous landmark buildings in the process (in your updated avatar!)

Well spotted Choc ...That's me yielding to pressure from my son William 'make them all blow up daddy .....

Pleased to say contact has been made with Neil and a meet-up to take place shortly .... anybody got any ideas of how we explain/introduce/account for Jeremy with new members??

[LS Kite Stakes]

Just don't explain anything, let them get the full Sailor experience with no warning.........

[david ellison]

Jonesey, on May 5 2009, 09:51 AM, said:

.... anybody got any ideas of how we explain/introduce/account for Jeremy with new members??

you might try the care in the community/ outreach charity / missionary work approach. Alternatively he responded well to Cornish pasties yesterday.

[Sailor99]

Ooooo. What with your comments on Monkie's language skills, didn't we wake up snarky today Jonesey. What's wrong?

BTW. Are you sure you will be allowed to go out to play on the day you organize to meet this new chap? Or will you have to do the hoovering that day?

I didn't realise they were Cornish pasties. Had I done so I of course would not have eaten them, not wanting to deprive a 3rd world area of vital food.

[Baloo]

Jonesey, on May 5 2009, 06:51 PM, said:

.... anybody got any ideas of how we explain/introduce/account for Jeremy with new members??

I always find a kind smile and a gentle shake of the head seems to work .

[Sailor99]

Jonesey, on May 5 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

Oh so not Jeremy or me then

Choccy, on May 5 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

or me then

Oh look Jonesey. You turned into an enigmatic man of few words. Who'd have thought.

I really hate it when you shake my head Baloo. It makes my brain ache.

[Baloo]

I didnt mean your head silly

If I had meant your head it would not have been a gentle shake ;-}

[lamrith]

Any new/updated information on this subject? 1st post was 2007, last was 2009..

New models, etc?

I have been flying quad line power kites since August. Flew dual line before that. HOOOKED good and proper and looking to expand the quiver with a Rev for the lighter days that the Open cell foils will not fly. My local flying spot the winds are usually from 2mph-8mph. So I need an initial package that will fly in almost nothing. My 8m open cell will fly 4-5mph up.

Sounds like a 1.5 is a great all around starter? It looks like there is SLE version, and SUL version of the sail, as well as spars (2,3,4 wrap)?

Would a SLE standard sail with 2 wrap bar fly as low as 2mph? If that requires a 1.5 SUL sail what are that sails limits for top end wind? Beach trips are higher wind, not 100% sure the avg wind but I would guess it is 10-15mph typically and some days higher...

[LS Kite Stakes]

A B series full sail would be best, for the initial investment. It comes with 3 wrap and 2 wrap frame sets, a great training video with John B himself, and is plenty tough for a beginner.

Sounds like you are flying at Kitehenge, also known as Chambers Creek Central Meadow. Do not expect low wind flying to be easy with a Rev, you will need a bit of time on the handles and maybe some help from an experienced flier before it "clicks". A good learning wind would be at least 5mph, and not much more than 15mph. Flying on a 2mph breeze is not impossible, and can be done with ease by a experienced flier with a kite that has been tuned for those conditions. A B series full sail (I have one and fly light wind with it) is a very capable kite for light winds.

[lamrith]

LS Kite Stakes, on 12 February 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

A B series full sail would be best, for the initial investment. It comes with 3 wrap and 2 wrap frame sets, a great training video with John B himself, and is plenty tough for a beginner.

Sounds like you are flying at Kitehenge, also known as Chambers Creek Central Meadow. Do not expect low wind flying to be easy with a Rev, you will need a bit of time on the handles and maybe some help from an experienced flier before it "clicks". A good learning wind would be at least 5mph, and not much more than 15mph. Flying on a 2mph breeze is not impossible, and can be done with ease by a experienced flier with a kite that has been tuned for those conditions. A B series full sail (I have one and fly light wind with it) is a very capable kite for light winds.

Yup you got my flight location exactly. Never heard of it called Kitehenge though! It is a popular local spot though, many weekday evenings there were 2-3 of us out flying.

Would a SUL sail and 2 wrap fly much better in those low winds? How about an EXP, they are 2oz lighter than the sle, and on par with the B for weight? I have a couple kids and a wife I want to get going as well and they have no real kite experience, so the tamer exp may be a good 1st option?(and much more in my price range)


Baring that does anyone have a used "B" they would part with? A new rtf is gonna be out of my range for a while!

[LS Kite Stakes]

It is not how light the sail is, it is a matter of where the weight is on the kite, and the abilities of the flier. The EXP is not "tamer", it is a Rev that is made with less expensive materials, and, IMHO, is not as precise as a B series.

Kitehenge is my main field where I fly, we should meet up sometime. I haven't had the time to go recently, lots of thing to do on my plate. I am sure that you can find a used 1.5B by posting in "open Topic", there are plenty of fliers here that could part with a old kite.

[lamrith]

LS Kite Stakes, on 12 February 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

It is not how light the sail is, it is a matter of where the weight is on the kite, and the abilities of the flier. The EXP is not "tamer", it is a Rev that is made with less expensive materials, and, IMHO, is not as precise as a B series.

Kitehenge is my main field where I fly, we should meet up sometime. I haven't had the time to go recently, lots of thing to do on my plate. I am sure that you can find a used 1.5B by posting in "open Topic", there are plenty of fliers here that could part with a old kite.

Sounds good. I can bring my bag of power kites you can try if you have not done that before. Though they will not be nimble like a Rev they will make you know you are harnessing the wind!

Is it just me or has the wind been TERRIBLE the last few months? I have not been able to get in the air since the 1st week of Dec!

I live very close to you based on member map, are there any spots out our way that are flyable, maybe on short lines? It's just so hilly, not sure if there is any clean spots in the new commercial area behind Boeing?

[lamrith]

Well It's kid @ christmas time now. I just ordered a Blue/black Rev B! Kent @ Awindofchange is hooking me up with one of his demo units. Any luck it shipped today and I should have Monday! WOOOT!