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#1 Jason

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:18 AM

At what point is the sail too taught for the B-series. I was trying to fly inverted and had problems so I let out on the top lines and put on more brake... a little difficult to get off the ground in light wing. Then I tightened my bunjies on the vertical.

There was another guy flying a B-series inverted no prob near my location. I did notice he had a nicer billow in his sail than me, maybe i have it too tight??????

Any help guys with this?? Thanks
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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:29 AM

do you similar skills?

same handle set-up, frames, kite models?

did you swap kites & compare the two?

I prefer a tight sail and generally fly in the land of no-wind. The Rev indoor has a pretty tight sail, so I don't think that's the only difference. On kites we build ourselves we add belt-loops to prevent the frame from moving around on the back of the sail.

The important part of sail tensioning is to insure you don't push the vertical endcaps UP above the leading edge when tightening the bottom elastics. That's a sure tangle point when doing slack line tricks. On our low wind mods we replace the elastic entirely and tie the cap directly to the leading edge so it can't move with hi-test bridle line.

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 07:08 AM

Also, the other Rev you saw may have a few more hours on it... Revs tend to gain a little bit of billow once they're broken in. :)

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#4 Jim Foster

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 09:08 AM

On our low wind mods we replace the elastic entirely and tie the cap directly to the leading edge so it can't move with hi-test bridle line.


I did the same thing some time ago on my full sail 1.5. I did it to make life easier when Lynn and I are flying together and I want to pass through her lines. I don't have to worry about the upper caps getting caught on her lines. Note...You may want to be careful not to land right side up too hard as there is no longer any give to take up the shock. Might brake a spar. Other than that, everything works just fine.

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 10:30 AM

On our low wind mods we replace the elastic entirely and tie the cap directly to the leading edge so it can't move with hi-test bridle line.

While this works fine in low winds, I would not really recommend it, over time, for higher winds. What happens is that it will cause the sail to stretch earlier and more due to the fact that the bungee(shock cord) has been replaced by a non-stretching connection.

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#6 mdilucca

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 11:23 AM

Hey Jason, I'll be glad to let you try my BS' next time at Clover Point! It was really nice meeting you the other day. One more rev flier in Victoria, yeah!!!

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:16 PM

do you similar skills?

same handle set-up, frames, kite models?

did you swap kites & compare the two?

I prefer a tight sail and generally fly in the land of no-wind. The Rev indoor has a pretty tight sail, so I don't think that's the only difference. On kites we build ourselves we add belt-loops to prevent the frame from moving around on the back of the sail.

The important part of sail tensioning is to insure you don't push the vertical endcaps UP above the leading edge when tightening the bottom elastics. That's a sure tangle point when doing slack line tricks. On our low wind mods we replace the elastic entirely and tie the cap directly to the leading edge so it can't move with hi-test bridle line.


Probably not the same skill level, but we both had tha b-series rev. I would assume he had the 2-wraps in since the wind was fairly light.
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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:26 PM

Hey Jason, I'll be glad to let you try my BS' next time at Clover Point! It was really nice meeting you the other day. One more rev flier in Victoria, yeah!!!

Cheers
Mario



Sounds great Mario, I am at sea right now, back on Friday(hopefully see you at Clover Point this weekend), and leave for another trip down to San Diego till the third week in November.

Jason
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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:34 PM

Also, the other Rev you saw may have a few more hours on it... Revs tend to gain a little bit of billow once they're broken in. :)


In other words, they tend to swell a bit when thoroughly spanked lol :kid_smartass:
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