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#1 andy666

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 02:33 AM

So what exactly are the differences between the EXP, SLE AND B-series??
Obviously different leading edge spars, but what else?
Different cloth?
Different bridle dimensions?

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:08 AM

the framing members and bridles are all interchangeable

 

different panel sizes & number of panels used, different fabrics, different location of framing components are all construction variables between the 3 referenced kites.  Increasing labor cost and using higher quality raw materials make for a more expensive product.  That doesn't mean one specific model is the only thing goin' on though!  Any of the Revolution kites are great flying wings.  It comes down to the thickness of your wallet and whether the current model (state of the art)today is exactly what you desire

 

I believe there are differences in the leading edge too (amount of curvature built in by design, not necessarily the material it's made from)

 

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:27 AM

Andy, I am an extremely new flier, but here is all the information you could ever want. Read as much as you want to get a better idea. You're not the first and you won't be the last to ask.

 

BTW, you'll be extremely happy with any of them, you just have to figure out which one you want/need first. Any of them can be adjusted numerous ways for different flight characteristics. You'll begin to learn that later and will get YEARS of fun and use out of any of them.



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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:29 AM

It's sort of the Ford, Mercury, Lincoln comparison!! If you're just looking for the absolute basic, go with the EXP! Want it a bit better, SLE. Top of the line, "B" series! You'll also notice availability of more submodels as you go up the ladder! The "B" for instance is offered in 3 versions, std, mid, full vent, better able to pick out the correct sail for that days wind conditions! SLEs are in 2 versions, std and full vent, and EXPs are in one model, std!! 

 

Are you anywhere near SparkieRob or West Australian?? Two members of this and the Kitelife forums, from "down under", they would (I'm sure) let you have a go on their kites, before deciding!

 

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 11:38 PM

Hi Andy, I notice you are in Australia.

If you are near Perth, come fly mine and try them out.

 

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:06 PM

Hi Andy, I notice you are in Australia.
If you are near Perth, come fly mine and try them out.
 
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 08:28 AM

Knew you guys could be trusted to step up and welcome a member from "down under"!!ani_yahoo.gif


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 09:14 PM

G'day to the other Aussie members.
It looks though like you are both on the opposite side of the country, I'm on the east coast near Byron bay, so a bit far to travel of a casual fly ;)

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 11:02 PM

I haven't looked up how far apart you are, but let me say this ... Getting with someone for some hands on time together makes a massive difference.

 

I know people who have wasted a year because they didn't take a short flight and get to understand even the right way to setup the kite.

 

That's not to say you can't do it alone - that was the only way I had when I started. Now that I am reasonably experienced and educated, you should see how fast people learn and integrate things when I can show them hands on.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 09:17 PM

It's sort of the Ford, Mercury, Lincoln comparison!! If you're just looking for the absolute basic, go with the EXP! Want it a bit better, SLE. Top of the line, "B" series! You'll also notice availability of more submodels as you go up the ladder! The "B" for instance is offered in 3 versions, std, mid, full vent, better able to pick out the correct sail for that days wind conditions! SLEs are in 2 versions, std and full vent, and EXPs are in one model, std!! 

 

Are you anywhere near SparkieRob or West Australian?? Two members of this and the Kitelife forums, from "down under", they would (I'm sure) let you have a go on their kites, before deciding!

 

No matter what you get - welcome to the world of Rev!! The Darkside Rules!! 

Wayne, now I'm troubled.

 

Unless my memory is messed up again - the second kite I purchased, after the EXP, was an SLE mid-vent. So I think SLE comes in all 3 versions. I'm pretty ignorant about the ultra-light, but I believe the ultra-light was produced only in the SLE line. (Is that correct?) If so, that would make 4 versions of SLE.

 

Bs come in three versions - full, mid, vent.

 

And B Pros come in four versions - adding the Extra Vent. That is the perfect sail in those real heavy gusty winds at the beach,

 

The reason you troubled me, Wayne, is that I generally trust what you say over what I think I might possibly believe to be true. Now I've got to check my kite bag - is there really an SLE mid-vent hiding in there? smiley-pinch.gif

 

Anyway - the EXP is an excellent introduction and is adaquate to learn the basic skills. The main problem is that it comes in only a full sail, and seems to be relatively heavy material - so it is limited in the wind range. (The full sail in any of the types will have a limited optimal range.) I have flown my EXP in up to near 20 mph winds with the factory EXP rods (which are essentially "three wrap"), and both the kite and I survived, but that is closer to the power kite experience than the usual Rev 1.5 exquisite control experience.

 

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 04:47 PM

Yes Howard, there are mid vents of the SLE, but not available at every store! If I remember correctly, they are gotten through The Kite Connection and there might be others! He gets them in that Black Rainbow pattern, that's exclusive to his store! So you might have one!!! The SUL version of the SLE has been discontinued as a production model, but still is stocked as a left over!  You can special order most any model in just about any kite style direct from the factory, if you have enough cash to make it happen! I believe I once saw an EXP vented!! I had deliberately left out the Pros, as it was a new flier asking and I didn't feel he needed to know that option yet!

 

Does that answer your dilemma?? ani_giveup.gif


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 12:32 AM

Yes Howard, there are mid vents of the SLE, but not available at every store! If I remember correctly, they are gotten through The Kite Connection and there might be others! He gets them in that Black Rainbow pattern, that's exclusive to his store! So you might have one!!! The SUL version of the SLE has been discontinued as a production model, but still is stocked as a left over!  You can special order most any model in just about any kite style direct from the factory, if you have enough cash to make it happen! I believe I once saw an EXP vented!! I had deliberately left out the Pros, as it was a new flier asking and I didn't feel he needed to know that option yet!

 

Does that answer your dilemma?? ani_giveup.gif

Yes, you can special order the 1.5 model in SUL and the Mid Vent at The Kite Shoppe.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 11:49 PM

1.5 model SUL's are discontinued.  You may want to snatch them up from any shops that still have them laying around. :)  Rev no longer produces these.  As for the Mid Vent, you can order those from any authorized Revolution dealer.  Keep in mind that some special orders and customs could incur a small up charge.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 12:03 PM

1.5 model SUL's are discontinued.  You may want to snatch them up from any shops that still have them laying around. smile.png  Rev no longer produces these.  As for the Mid Vent, you can order those from any authorized Revolution dealer.  Keep in mind that some special orders and customs could incur a small up charge.

 

What replaces that model, for light wind flying?


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 12:21 PM

 

What replaces that model, for light wind flying?

Briefly:

The B series is better in lighter winds due to the panel design. The B Pro is even better and cost a bit more.

Also an alternative is the single piece printed sail which you usually will not find in the catalog, but ask for it.

Any of these along with race rods and other newer type rods will also improve light wind flying.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 12:21 PM

depends on the thickness of your wallet



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 02:04 PM

 
What replaces that model, for light wind flying?


Experience, technique ;)

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 02:48 PM

All I have is a B standard with either black race..or diamond rods..and maybe 50# line.
Some will agree ...some won't. But some of these sails are not needed. It will boildown to time and technique...and how much effort you want to put onto it to acheive your percieved "happy spot"
 

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 04:00 PM

Don't forget the Zen either!! Bigger, light wind machine is very nice in light stuff!! But it is expensive, so budgets prevail!!


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 06:21 PM

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For beginner, check the merchants and compare these choices:

 

1. EXP with handles and lines (lines should be Laser Pro), used to be a common starter package.

2. SLE standard PLUS handles PLUS lines. (Or may be packaged as RTF - Ready To Fly)

3. B standard PLUS handles PLUS lines (Or may be packaged as RTF - Ready To Fly), which should come with TWO sets of frames to handle a wider range of winds.

 

If in doubt, contact any or several of the excellent merchants that advertise on this forum or the KiteLife forum. Select option 1, 2, or 3 in that order depending on where your wallet  might start crying. They are all excellent for a beginner. But if you have not had prior experience, it might be better to start cheap. Many people do not have the opportunity or the drive to master the quad kite - and unfortunately drop out.

 

If it helps you decide, I am a non-athletic senior citizen (i.e. elderly couch potato), and have managed to reach a fairly comfortable advanced stage - certainly NOT a master. But that has taken several very enjoyable years to do so.


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