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#1 West Australian

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:45 PM

Hi all,

I am going to be stacking a pair of Supersonics soon.

 

I have several sets of Rev 1.5 Stacking lines, can I use these or do I need Longer/Shorter?

 

Is the 3 Wrap SLE LE going to be strong enough in the Front kite?

 

Apart from "hold on tight", can you give me any advice on flying a speed series stack?

 

Thanks in advance

WA


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:57 PM

My advice, give me first try!!!! Ha ha ha.

Should be able to use the same stack lines you already have as the LE is similar length. Usually link lines are a ratio of the LE. Hook up ALL bridle points (11). Use your #150 line.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:22 PM

Well Rob, if the wind is gusting over 25kmh, I was going to use you as my test pilot anyway. ;)

I also need to make sure I bring my Landboard along too

 

It is a good thing I have a few sets then.

Good to hear it is a LE ratio thing, it makes sense

 

I am VERY excited to try these out.

Black/Purple/Gold and Blue/Pink/Gold will look nice together.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:32 AM

You can use the same length lines, but you will need two extra stacking lines for the Sonic than for the 1.5.  The Sonic has four vertical rods and the 1.5 only has two.  The Sonic would need to have stacking lines on both bottom end caps on each side, where the 1.5 only needs one stacking line on the bottom end cap on each side.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:36 PM

Isn't that 4 extra stacking lines?


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:57 PM

Kent says on the bottom verticals, there is already one vertical bottoms on each side of the 1.5, so it sounds like just 2 more stack lines to cover the remaining of a supersonic's extra 2 bottom verticals. Nothing mentioned about the extra 2 top verticals on the supersonic. I would think 4 extra lines also, but I won't stack supersonics.



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:52 PM

I would have thought Top and Bottom points all needed to be linked.

 

 

Perhaps I am crazy, but when I see kites that can be stacked, I want to try it out.

I have stacked my Progressive Vented Revs, and Rob has a sweet 2xSTD Stack (EXP & 1.5).

I want to fly the Rev 1 - Rev 1.5 - Rev 2 progressive stack one day too.

I have a Stacked train of 25 Single line kites.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:05 PM

Just remember to stack from small to big, if you go for that 2, 1.5, 1 progressive stack!! You, sir, are a stacking madman!!cat_lol.gif


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:21 PM

Thank you sir...

 

Yep smallest at the front...

 

I also have a dream of stacking all of Rob's 1.5 sized kites with mine :)


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:44 AM

Thank you sir...

Yep smallest at the front...

I also have a dream of stacking all of Rob's 1.5 sized kites with mine :)

That's a lot of train lines!!

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 03:12 PM

Yeh, Thats the major holdup at the moment.

 

Hopefully we can make a nice big stack one day though.

After I get some more Skacking Lines.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:33 PM

And a BOX OF ROCKS TO GO IN YOUR POCKET!!ani_giveup.gif


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 10:59 PM

Hehehe...

Well I am fairly Heavy. But I used to do Kite Jumping and Free Traction Power Kiting, So I think I can handle it.

 

Besides Rev's are easy to depower and land fast.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:28 PM

We Did It !!!!

 

With the Help of my Co-Flyer Rob, we got the Supersonic Stack Flying.

 

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I think the wind was a bit light for it.

Most of the flight time I was moving backwards to keep them in the air.

It got very hard keeping the sails loaded, wind was too light.

 

When the Wind came up the Stack flew fast, but felt controllable.

I have not flown my Sonics in a while and I did not feel comfortable with them.

Lots of oversteer.

It will take a few flights to get back in the swing.

 

 

Rob did some great flying on them too.

Hopefully he will post about his own experiences

 

 

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:29 AM

If they are this much fun in the low teens (km/h) then I can't wait for low 30's!!!!!

Initially the rear kite wouldn't load up, but with a couple of km/h more wind it pulled up nicely. With 11 train lines to make sure they are all even and stay that way in light winds was pretty hard job, no rear loading.

I dare say first decent breeze and we will clear most wildlife from our park. Probably some of the dog walkers too!

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:48 AM

Kite stacks that are large sized are usually tuned with "excess forward" (bleeding some wind pressure off the trailing edge), if the kites won't power-up you can try going towards more reverse tuning (gets the sail more square to the wind) and see if that helps.  In big wind though, you'd better back off that reverse tuning or at least remember you put it there.

 

You fly the back kite in a stack,... read it again!  The BACK kite

 

Label the train lines carefully for specific locations or never take them off.  The more kites in the stack, the more (micro) tuning is necessary for optimal flight control. (Black-magic tuning baby, not just a ruler!)

 

Being able to set-up the kites upright, staked to the ground or fly them out of inverted landing is necessary, ( a friend also works!)  TC Ultra handles are drilled plexi-plastic so you can "mount" the kites on a specific hole for set-up and the handles have a built in winder for your stack flying lines.

 

The less knots and stuff sticking-out that can grab a flying line, the better.  What can you address as a do-it-yourselfer?

 

Stacks are a great show all by themselves!

 

Don't forget to breath, it's so much fun you'll be holding your wind.






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