33 replies to this topic

[f242]

ok, i'm just wondering the difference between them. Which one you would start on?
thanks

[Watty]

The 1.5 is more accurate, but I hate the SLE. I would actually start on a 1,5 with the EXP LE.

[Kitelife]

To be clear, Watty is referring to the SLE spars vs. the SLE sail... Two different items.

[Watty]

Yeah. When I said "I hate the SLE" I was referring to the LE that usually comes with the kite.

[f242]

thanks for the advice, the EXP in RTF form is $169 shipped, will the differences be noticed enough by a biginner?

[FortFlyer]

thanks for the advice, the EXP in RTF form is $169 shipped, will the differences be noticed enough by a biginner?

The EXP is a great beginner kite, the lighter rod is more forgiving and makes the learning curve a bit easier and the sail is a bit heavier material. ultimately you would want a 1.5 and purchase a 3 wrap leading edge but that would bring you over $250 pretty easy, for a complete package.

To be totally honest if you think you will stick with this I would defiantly recommend getting the B-Series on the sole basis that it comes with 2 frames, lines, Handles that are set up for adjustment (most of us had to learn this over time) and a good instructional DVD, it runs around $300 and you'll end up buying all the extra stuff anyhow.

It's a great package deal that covers wind ranges from 3mph up to 20mph, pretty much 1 kite will be all you'll need then.

Check it out http://www.revkites..../Barresi_Series

Christ I sound like a salesman

[Baloo]

I agree with Jim.

Best if you can afford it. B series. What a package, and once you get the hang of flying a Rev you will appreciate it more and more.

Next, 1.5, get the shop to dump the SLE and get a 3 wrap instead (some shops will do this) eventually you will want a 2 wrap and will have to do a bit of work with pigtails on the handles.

Cheapest EXP. Still a FANTASTIC kite for the money and great to learn on.

[antman]

1.5 with a 2 or 3 wrap is all you need

[Kitelife]

When discussing things like this, it's important to note...

The 1.5 is a SIZE of Revolution... Available in SUL, EXP, SLE or B-Series models.

May want to specify, when offering info or suggestions.

[FortFlyer]

When discussing things like this, it's important to note...

The 1.5 is a SIZE of Revolution... Available in SUL, EXP, SLE or B-Series models.

May want to specify, when offering info or suggestions.

I didn't realize the EXP was part of 1.5 family as they are 92" as opposed to the 91" 1.5. they have always been described to me as EXP or 1.5 series (they lied to me )

And you forgot the vented the best of all LOL

[Kitelife]

Well, you might be right there... Perhaps I was being a little too generic, but still, you get my point.

[RevWizard]

I didn't realize the EXP was part of 1.5 family as they are 92" as opposed to the 91" 1.5. they have always been described to me as EXP or 1.5 series (they lied to me )

That is a new one for me!
Is anyone else aware of the 91 to 92 inch difference?

[awindofchange]

Revolution does list the specifications of the EXP and the 1.5 as 92 & 91 inches respectively. I have stacked the EXP on top of the 1.5 to see if there were other differences and found that the "V" of the EXP is narrower than the "V" of the 1.5 by about 1.75" causing the wing spars (verticals) of the EXP to be that much closer together than the 1.5's. This would give the 1.5 SLE sail a wider area (from one side to the other and in the middle of the "V") than the EXP. The actual sail area between the two seem to be the exact same, no difference in total overall sail area, they are just cut slightly different from each other. The wing tips (of the sail) appear to be the same distance from tip to tip along the leading edge. The height of both kites along the Verticals are equal but the EXP seems to have a little more "bow" in the leading edge and stands about 1.5" higher in the center of the sail than the 1.5 (caused by the difference in the "V" cut of the EXP I am assuming or...it could just be that the SLE rod in the 1.5 is not letting the kite bow as much as the EXP is while they are both sitting on the floor).

The assembled SLE rod on the 1.5 is shorter than the 1/4" rod on the EXP by 1". It appears that all of the 1/4" rods assembled are 92" (2 wrap, 3 wrap, 4 wrap and the new "RACE" rods) and all of the 1.5 SLE rods assembled are 91" (3 wrap, & 4 wrap). As been said many times before, people have placed the SLE rods into the EXP and the EXP rods into the 1.5 with no problems at all and they are perfectly interchangeable. The longer rod only pulls the bungee an additional 1/2" on each side. If you didn't actually measure the two rods next to each other you would probably not even know they were different when you slid them in.

The differences between the two seem to me to be super marginal and probably not even worth mentioning...so I am thinking this is a useless info post by me.....

[ilh]

I just pulled out a 2-wrap frame, a 3-wrap EXP frame, and a Race frame. Every single stick measures 31", meaning all of these 1/4-inch frames produce a 93" leading edge.

--Lee

[FortFlyer]

I just pulled out a 2-wrap frame, a 3-wrap EXP frame, and a Race frame. Every single stick measures 31", meaning all of these 1/4-inch frames produce a 93" leading edge.

--Lee

I believe the measurement given by Rev in their kite descriptions are of the sail.

Now I have a bag that I just carry all of my different spars in and I have noticed at times that the middle spar on some of my rods are 1/2" longer (without ferrules) yet some of the center spars are the same as the rest.

[Kitelife]

I don't know why spars are different lengths, but I can tell you... It doesn't make any practical difference.

The variance is sucked up by the bunji, and as long as tensioning is good, your sail area is still the same.

Related, an interesting thread on GWTW.

[FortFlyer]

I don't know why spars are different lengths, but I can tell you... It doesn't make any practical difference.

The variance is sucked up by the bunji, and as long as tensioning is good, your sail area is still the same.

Related, an interesting thread on GWTW.

John remind me not to read anymore GWTW topics you post LOL, my wrists almost split open on their own reading that 5 pages of crying that Saturn wasn't in-line with Uranus < that deserves what I now refer to as the Fraser emote lmao

[Kitelife]

It's entirely another, albeit real world over there.

Conversely, I enjoy the utter lack of cruel sarcasm and genuine friendliness shown by both Rev and Kitelife forum members.

Caddy humor is good, but I don't have much tolerance for pointed cynicism.

Same thing I told Lolly though, ignore the static and go for the guts of what is there... Some good info and observations from users.

[Fraser]

John remind me not to read anymore GWTW topics you post LOL, my wrists almost split open on their own reading that 5 pages of crying that Saturn wasn't in-line with Uranus < that deserves what I now refer to as the Fraser emote lmao

Watch it - or it'll be my the toe of my boot that's aligned with Uranus..!

[Kitelife]