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#21 Ready For A Revolution

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:50 PM

30' and 50' will make you love your REV on short lines 4 hours is a short day get a feel then fly in the trees



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

Hey SparkieRob, let us know how the Street Light Fly went dude.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:34 PM

I was out this week with West Australian and the wind died for a bit, so I pulled out my newly made up 30 footers (give or take a foot). Saddled up the good old EXP with a 2 frame and took it for a spin. WOW WOW WOW! Being up close and personal like that is a real buzz! Just working it around was great fun. I thought I'd have a crack at some 3D work. Now THAT is cool! Catch and throws on 30's now is one of my favorite things. Swapped set ups with Ian and had a go on his Std with #50 x 50's, after a bit of practice I got a couple to work on that as well. Great morning light wind flying all round!

Can't wait to try my B2 on these shorties!


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:23 PM

Just wait until you have the skill and confidence to use the kite to (safely) interact with people on those 30' lines ;)

 

In the mean time, find something in your surroundings to practice with ... land on it, balance on it, cartwheel over it, slide past it, etc, etc



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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:22 AM

Just wait until you have the skill and confidence to use the kite to (safely) interact with people on those 30' lines ;)

In the mean time, find something in your surroundings to practice with ... land on it, balance on it, cartwheel over it, slide past it, etc, etc

Good advice, I'll do that.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:44 AM

Interacting with people at very close quarters requires absolute unwaivering control of your kite ... but it is SO worth the effort in getting to that point when you get the response from them.

 

I mainly do this on 30' and 50' lines, but I've done it out at 80' and 120' as well ... but the longer the lines the more you're removed from the interaction ... I like it when it's the victim volunteer, the kite AND me in the interaction.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:13 AM

Just a quick question,
When using the shorter line lengths, do you use longer handles? I've been using my 13's and so far they have been great but I was just wondering what everyone else was using.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:35 AM

I use the 13" handles exclusively - B2, 1.5 or Zen.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:03 AM

I switch between 13" + 15", but not because of line length! I prefer the longer handles in light winds, the shorter in "regular" winds!

 

Just what works for me!! IMHO !


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

13s for me across the wind and kite range. Its nice to be moving the handles around a bit as well as the kite.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

Interacting with people at very close quarters requires absolute unwaivering control of your kite ... but it is SO worth the effort in getting to that point when you get the response from them.

 

I mainly do this on 30' and 50' lines, but I've done it out at 80' and 120' as well ... but the longer the lines the more you're removed from the interaction ... I like it when it's the victim volunteer, the kite AND me in the interaction.

 

 

That sounds like a lot of fun dude.

I hope to get to that level of skill one day too.

 

At the moment I am really trying to get as much air time as I can.

 

I have cut a set of 90# short Quad lines, about 32' at the moment.

I need to get some sleeving stuff to finish them though.

 

Should be good...


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

WA leave the sleeving off on the short line sets... It can interfere with slack line tricks (axle, flic flac) and catch-n-throws. Add a pigtail onto the loop you tie so you can undo the larks head noose knot.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:22 PM

WA leave the sleeving off on the short line sets... It can interfere with slack line tricks (axle, flic flac) and catch-n-throws. Add a pigtail onto the loop you tie so you can undo the larks head noose knot.


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Really? But doesn't knotting Spectra weaken the Line?

BTW I am not at the Axel/Flic Flac stage yet.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:46 PM

You WANT the line to break at the knot, if it must. Less to cut away when you re-equalize.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 11:21 PM

All my lines are sleeved ... even my indoor lines (which are 90# line) ... I've not had any issues due to sleeving.

 

Now snags due to handle position, leader knots, endcap bungees .... THAT's a different story.



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Posted 04 March 2013 - 11:34 PM

As usual!
Another case of "it all seems to work" :)

Still, I wouldn't put off flying on the short lines just to wait on some sleeving ;)


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:15 AM

Good Point SkyPuppet, They are longer than the Final sleeved lines need to be.

I can cut the loops off later.

 

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:21 AM

Good Point SkyPuppet, They are longer than the Final sleeved lines need to be.
I can cut the loops off later.

Thanks

I've got some sleeving. I'll bring it next fly.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 02:58 AM

Leave the handle end of the lines sleeved ready for equalization and leave the kite end sleevless !

I have just used this method to make up a couple of  sets at 30 ft and 47 ft from a standard supplied

80 ft LPG set !

Best of both worlds !

 

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:07 AM

Leave the handle end of the lines sleeved ready for equalization and leave the kite end sleevless !

I have just used this method to make up a couple of  sets at 30 ft and 47 ft from a standard supplied

80 ft LPG set !

Best of both worlds !

 

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Remember that if you do this, to make your kite end loops long enough to tie in some pull tags also!! Makes taking down a lot easier!!


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