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#21 West Australian

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:31 PM

Yeh Proposed as Overkill, in Jest.

 

My old Dual line Peel Kite Lines are 500#


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:15 AM

Hmmm, an 8 Stack!!! Line recommendations anyone?
150# - If you need more then you have a stack you can't hold.
I kinda look at it like this. If you have 150# lines times 4 that is 600# of even pull. Now I cut that in half to 300# for a safety factor. Even 300# pull is quite difficult to hold.
However you don't want to fly with such a pull all the time.

Only 150# line needed. Does this apply the the Power Series kites as well?


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:48 AM

If you don't use the Rev history of John M., then on the Rev forum there is a direct comparison of what old and new labels look like and the meaning of each!! I don't have the link handy, maybe JB or Watty can help out?  ani_giveup.gif

 

Not sure I remember that... but there is a write up I did for the WCRC a couple years ago that is now part of the main rev site:

http://www.revkites....tion-spars-rods


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

Thanks Watty! I thought I saw it here or on Kitelife a while back!! 


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

Awesome Morning flight today.

 

Light winds, fairly consistent.

 

I set up the STD B series with 2 wraps in everywhere except the centre Leading Edge.

(just for a quick setup)

 

80# 85' lines. (Shortest and lightest I have)

I had to work a bit to keep it in the air, but all in all it was fairly easy. I do have a fair bit of light wind experience on Dual and single line.

It was calm and cool.

 

A very relaxing and productive flight.

 

Got some really good inverted hovers and slides in the light winds too. :)

Also Tried out Power Dive and Brake this morning. Went really well


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:31 PM

Only 150# line needed. Does this apply the the Power Series kites as well?


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When I still had my BLAST I flew it on 150#. I also flew a Super Blast(now BLAST 2-4) on 150# line. Now the Blast 4-8 you might consider heavier lines particularly if you plan lifting yourself, let us say over water. I am sure Kent can elaborate much better on this as he does enjoy and does power kiting quite often.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:59 AM

For really light winds, try a set of 50# lines, especially if solo!! Some will disagree, but I find them to be plenty strong and very light-weight, in winds we just about can't feel!! Again, some disagree, but have you tried longer handles (15") in light winds? I find them to be helpful in conditions most just pack up in! 

 

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:41 AM

8 stack....yea baby

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

8 stack....yea baby
https://picasaweb.go...394440840986210

Yea, that's me flying.

Slightly off topic, don't shoot me...

Kent, I saw in the photo captions that the LE's were all SLE rods but I've also read that you had some custom 8 wrap frames made up for this. What is the set up currently? Also, are the really heavy frames needed at the front as they are all standards?


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

Slightly off topic, don't shoot me...

Kent, I saw in the photo captions that the LE's were all SLE rods but I've also read that you had some custom 8 wrap frames made up for this. What is the set up currently? Also, are the really heavy frames needed at the front as they are all standards?


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Making Plans for the 8 Stack..... Nice....

 

 

8 stack....yea baby

https://picasaweb.go...394440840986210

 

Yea, that's me flying. smile.png

 

Sweet Picture dude. Lov'n it.

 

Flew again yesterday Arvo and again this morning.

Very different conditions.

Yesterday was Big strong winds on the Vented B with 4 Wrap.

This morning started as light breeze on the STD with 2 Wrap and a LE change to 3 Wrap when the wind picked up a bit.

 

Both very good sessions.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

Slightly off topic, don't shoot me...

Kent, I saw in the photo captions that the LE's were all SLE rods but I've also read that you had some custom 8 wrap frames made up for this. What is the set up currently? Also, are the really heavy frames needed at the front as they are all standards?


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A heavier frame on the leading REV would be good idea. I think a 6 wrap would be sufficient for an 8 STACK with the second REV having a 4 wrap.


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

Lolly made that stack up for me custom, It does have all SLE rods for the leading edges.  The first 3 kites are framed extra heavy with custom 8 wrap rods.  The next 3 are SLE 4 wrap rods, the last two are 3 wrap SLE.

 

All of the stacked kites hang off the very first kite(s).  Because of this, you have push/pull stresses which can be quite extreme in the stronger winds.  For lighter winds you probably would be ok, but when the winds kick up around 10-15 mph this thing pulls like a tank.  I fly it off of 500# lines, I broke two lines when I flew it on #300 and the winds were around 7-8 mph.  This is also when I figured out to pull in the top lines about 2-3 inches to take a ton of the pull off of the stack.  I buggied with it in 15 mph easily and was a little overpowered at times. :)

 

I have stacked up to 4 1.5's with the standard frames and had no problems.  I have also stacked 3 B-Series with standard 3 wraps with no problems.  The stacks fly very easily, even in lighter winds so saving the weight by going to a light frame is usually not needed - unless you want to fly it in 2 mph winds.  My favorite stack for just enjoying the flight is my progressive stack.  It also has SLE rods in the 1.5 and the Rev 1 but it flies down in the 3-4 mph range very nicely with very little work/effort.  If you want to coax it you can get another mph on the bottom end.  Pictures here https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2007Kites#5431163207471516610  My next fav. is my Rev II stack, in high winds that thing is a riot.



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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

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I think that the six stack Rev1s I flew at WSIKF 1994 all had 4 wrap spars...

 

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:17 PM

Lolly made that stack up for me custom, It does have all SLE rods for the leading edges.  The first 3 kites are framed extra heavy with custom 8 wrap rods.  The next 3 are SLE 4 wrap rods, the last two are 3 wrap SLE.

 

All of the stacked kites hang off the very first kite(s).  Because of this, you have push/pull stresses which can be quite extreme in the stronger winds.  For lighter winds you probably would be ok, but when the winds kick up around 10-15 mph this thing pulls like a tank.  I fly it off of 500# lines, I broke two lines when I flew it on #300 and the winds were around 7-8 mph.  This is also when I figured out to pull in the top lines about 2-3 inches to take a ton of the pull off of the stack.  I buggied with it in 15 mph easily and was a little overpowered at times. smile.png

 

I have stacked up to 4 1.5's with the standard frames and had no problems.  I have also stacked 3 B-Series with standard 3 wraps with no problems.  The stacks fly very easily, even in lighter winds so saving the weight by going to a light frame is usually not needed - unless you want to fly it in 2 mph winds.  My favorite stack for just enjoying the flight is my progressive stack.  It also has SLE rods in the 1.5 and the Rev 1 but it flies down in the 3-4 mph range very nicely with very little work/effort.  If you want to coax it you can get another mph on the bottom end.  Pictures here https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2007Kites#5431163207471516610  My next fav. is my Rev II stack, in high winds that thing is a riot.

I do believe Kent has rounded it up quite well, in particular when it comes to power kiting a stack of REVs.

My assessment would only be reasonable in light to very light winds.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

Been catching lots of Air time. Had a second Fly on Friday Arvo, only short, but the winds were nice and strong.

 

Had a quick fly on the Weekend too 44degC (111degF)

Mild Winds. Good fun...

 

Flew again this Morning too.

It was very mild with regular times of Nothing.

I had the Standard B with the Full 2 Wrap frame in. I really need some Light lines though, It was hard work with the 80# x 85' lines.

The wind slowly became more consistent and stronger, so I switched the LE to the 3 Wrap.

About 20min later I packed up the STD and pulled out the Vented with the 4 Wrap LE and 3 Wrap Verticals.

It was a nice Varied morning where I got to fly a bit of everything :)


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

Totally calm Morning :(

 

Zero wind gusting to 1mph :( :(

 

Not a chance of getting the Rev in the Air.

 

Flew some of my Indoor Dual and Single Liners.

 

Oh well, better luck next time.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:15 PM

Some days are diamond, some days are stone!! I believe in the "Hippy Dippy Weatherman" - today's weather is outside!!


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

Some days are diamond, some days are stone!! I believe in the "Hippy Dippy Weatherman" - today's weather is outside!!
...and some days you have to run your arse off.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:40 PM

Yeh That's why I have Ultralights. No UL Quad though.

 

Too Humid for running around this morning.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:52 AM

JB may think otherwise ...

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