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#21 Crazy Drivers

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 03:20 AM

Thanks!

That bridle is very different from the diagram that Hector posted.
I know that you speak French, and I only speak English, but can you explain some of the theory about this bridle?
What is the purpose of line #2?

If you need to answer in French, that is OK. We will find someone to help translate for us English only speakers.

Hi !!!!
No worries about my english !!!!! May you saw that we have another line for the break (the yellow one). this line is usefull to break always in the same direction.With this line , breaks can't move....
The purpose of the line 2 is to fly axel.For example if you pull right, you also pullon the left side with line 2.When it's windy you spread power on every part of the leading edge .
If you don't understand , i can explain in french .....
La bride 2 permet de faire les axels.elle permet aussi de repartir la pression sur le bord d'attaque.

Size of line 2 is 69 cm , however we always have to adjust it with a loop.

see you soon !!!!



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Posted 16 August 2007 - 03:25 AM

Don't worry about translation...just type LOUD and S L O W :kid_devlish:


salut stephen !!!!!

La bride 2 facilite les axels !!!!!! au lieu de tirer au milieu , on tire le coté opposé.
cette bride permet de repartir la pression sur le bord d'attaque !!!!!

I hope you can translate it in english , if not i'll explain it in english !!!!

See you in portsmouth !!!!!

Damien & Fabrice

#23 Stephen Hoath

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 08:39 AM

salut stephen !!!!!

La bride 2 facilite les axels !!!!!! au lieu de tirer au milieu , on tire le coté opposé.
cette bride permet de repartir la pression sur le bord d'attaque !!!!!

I hope you can translate it in english , if not i'll explain it in english !!!!

See you in portsmouth !!!!!

Damien & Fabrice

Ah Je comprennent. J'aime le frein et cela fonctionne bien. L'employez-vous jamais sans longerons sur le dos du cerf-volant ?

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 12:12 AM

Ah Je comprennent. J'aime le frein et cela fonctionne bien. L'employez-vous jamais sans longerons sur le dos du cerf-volant ?


Dear Stephen !!!!

You're right , the line for the break is very efficient, to get more precision and to fly easily backward, we put stand off behind the kite .A line pathing in the middle allows to curve the foil shape . i'll show you at portsmouth !!!!!

Have a nice day !!!!
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 06:49 AM

Ah Je comprennent. J'aime le frein et cela fonctionne bien. L'employez-vous jamais sans longerons sur le dos du cerf-volant ?



Show off. :P

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 07:21 AM

I flew Fabrice's kite (with French bridle) at Berck last year, but it was an SLE leading edge if I remember right...

It will be interesting to test a french bridle a 2, 3 or 4 wrap LE.

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 09:23 AM

Show off. :P

At least Stephen has gone to the trouble to learn another language well. And you?

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#28 Stephen Hoath

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 10:01 AM

Show off. :P



Impress your friends with your language skills via http://babelfish.altavista.com/

but be warned, some of the translation is a little interesting. It is better to learn the old fashioned way but it is good rough and ready solution.

Bon courage mon amis.

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 10:48 AM

At least Stephen has gone to the trouble to learn another language well. And you?

Aww, JM! What is it with you and people joking about linguists?? Watty's only having a giggle - just like I was when I ribbed you about a foriegn language post of yours a while ago. We're only jealous! :kid_content:

Lighten up, Smiler! ;)

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 05:04 PM

Impress your friends with your language skills via http://babelfish.altavista.com/
but be warned, some of the translation is a little interesting. It is better to learn the old fashioned way but it is good rough and ready solution.
Bon courage mon amis.

:blue_wink:

Very well done Stephen! that's the one I use, JEJEJEJE... I rather this jejeje or jajaja intead of LOL. it seems that LOL is cold. By the way, how do you say jejeje or jajaja in French? .....jajajaja... I think I've got you... :sign_kitelife: ...
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Posted 18 August 2007 - 02:01 AM

Impress your friends with your language skills via http://babelfish.altavista.com/

but be warned, some of the translation is a little interesting. It is better to learn the old fashioned way but it is good rough and ready solution.

Bon courage mon amis.

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Does Babelfish work for Scottish or American ? ;)
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Posted 18 August 2007 - 02:25 AM

I flew Fabrice's kite (with French bridle) at Berck last year, but it was an SLE leading edge if I remember right...

It will be interesting to test a french bridle a 2, 3 or 4 wrap LE.


Dear John !!!
What don you mean with "2, 3 or 4 wrap LE"? . the rev you tried last year at Berck was an SLE leading edge and the kite was an SUL without mylar . , because you get to much power with it in just one area of the kite.
The best way to fly backward is to set stand off !!!!

See U !!!!

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 06:34 AM

Yes, the sail was fine... The SLE leading edge gives too much oversteer and inertia for my taste.

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 09:22 AM

Does Babelfish work for Scottish or American ? ;)

Naw - ye huv tae talk lyke some English fanny fur it tae work :kid_devlish:

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:24 AM

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Did you come to any conclusions on the bridle when you tried it out John?
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:31 AM

Ya, didn't care for it myself.

IMHO, Rev broke the mold when they made theirs. ;)

Haven't had any problems with the kite or bridle that a little personal adaptation couldn't solve.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 03:10 AM

I flew Shawn Tinkham's kite for a few minutes last weekend. He's using a euro bridle that Lam brought back a few years ago. I could examine it carefully on his wing, but not take any measurements,... as he promised that little Canadian he wouldn't share it without permission!

He had it set-up for ultra-low wind conditions, indoor sticks and 30# spectra bridles for example.

It would track a straight line like it was fired from a laser, but the flat spins became a tangled mess. As STephen said, every area you push hard in one direction becomes a compromise in other areas. I might try-out the Crazy-Driver's bridle dimensions for precision, but I will surely miss throwing slack-line tricks out the window. I might have to start carrying two bags of kites now!

Thanks for providing the links and doing the testing to share these modifications with us too
-paul

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 03:48 AM

I might try-out the Crazy-Driver's bridle dimensions for precision, but I will surely miss throwing slack-line tricks out the window.

Now I am confused. I thought this bridle was supposed to help with slack line work - See Crazy Driver's post of 16 August.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:53 AM

I didn't say Shawn was using the french site's bridle being discussed by Hector. He had one developed (or imported?) by Lam Hoac.

That one is certainly useless for slack line rotational tricks, as the outside parameter of the leading edge is where the bridle action takes place (outside of the down spars!) That means there's a snag possibility, to such an extent that it should be carefully considered for use. What do you want the kite to do magnificently? What would you be willing to give up to get that action?

Shawn does a series of flick-flaks in rapid succession, the bridle he incorporates does this very reliably (he also has sewn belt-loop styled covers over the bottom elastic knots and washers, to prevent tangles) He also drew five or six of the precision figures used in competitions, and does execute these figures very, very well!!!

I would have a difficult time giving up the flat spin tricks permanently. I do prefer a more responsive bridle configuration though (built closer to the sail and with a smaller hinge connection between the two legs)

The kite I flew with Lam's bridle on it is NOT of any value for my flying style. It was for precision and one "trick". I want to spank my kites, he's doing a delicate manipulation. Shawn's a master, worthy of defeating the famous Bugs Bunny Routine by JB,... i'm just a hack wanta'be!

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 06:01 AM

I tried out a French Bridle (not the turbo diagram from Hector) on one of Ben's kites. I liked it so much I'm converting several more kites over. Geeze it uses a ton of line!

Here's the link to the diagram.
http://www.revo-solu..... outdoor.html




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