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#1 rmesm

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 01:54 PM

I am considering the purchase of an Eliot Shook mesh/weave kite and wondering the differences between the 100% and the 75% weave. Any preferences, suggestions??

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 05:03 PM

Can't really help, other than to say they are as smooth as silk (I've heard) and are beautiful pieces of art!
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 05:59 PM

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I believe it refers to the amount of the sail area that is made of strips as opposed to solid fabric. If you look at his kites you'll notice that on most the center is not mesh, but some are mesh in entirety, including the center (where the rev logo usually is).
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 06:25 PM

100% is comparable to a full vent sail.
75% is comparable to a mid vent sail.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 06:31 PM

I have one, I really like it.
However, I am not sure whether it is a 75% or 100%. I suspect it is a 75%.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 07:46 PM

We should probably ask Elliot Shook to clarify, then we can stop guessing.


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Posted 16 September 2012 - 10:14 PM

We should probably ask Elliot Shook to clarify, then we can stop guessing.


You're right!! I just sent the Shook's an e-mail!
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:13 AM

100% is comparable to a full vent sail.
75% is comparable to a mid vent sail.

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Correction, the 40% mesh is the equal to the mid vent.
The 75% is the middle ground between mid & full vent.




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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:45 AM

Correction, the 40% mesh is the equal to the mid vent.
The 75% is the middle ground between mid & full vent.



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Posted 17 September 2012 - 12:00 PM

Shook weave DROOOOL :kid_loved:
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 12:39 PM

Shook weave DROOOOL :kid_loved:
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 12:44 PM

They do fly sweet!!


And they don't suck to look at either!




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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:31 AM

Shook's mesh rev kites are popular because they are way lighter in weight (no heavy mesh material) for the same purchased wind range compared to any other Rev products. Granted you paid more, but it's almost like getting two kites in one. It will fly in lower winds and really big turbulent gusts equally well. Changing out the frames gets you a 25 or 30 mph spread of usable wind ranges. Buying two "Pros" or one Shook Mesh? I've flown the full weave (100%) in 8 and steady winds over 40 mph with the same green race frame. If I switched to my B-series Pros I'd have had three of 'em out instead of just one.

Some folks say "there's not enough hard surface to push against" when using a fabric weave doing hard tricks or flailing. Well in the hands of a master pilot the shook mesh revs will do almost every trick i've ever witnessed. I own 3 of them and they are great kites, smooth and versatile, good looking too!

You can design it yourself and Elliot will build away to satisfy your desires and dreams. Plus he sells all the stuff necessary to customize the flight dynamics if your interested in exploring new variables. Line, handles, magic sticks, different bridle options, sail graphics and patterns. Truly a masterpiece worthy of the cost of admission.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:23 AM

Shook's mesh rev kites are popular because they are way lighter in weight (no heavy mesh material) for the same purchased wind range compared to any other Rev products. Granted you paid more, but it's almost like getting two kites in one. It will fly in lower winds and really big turbulent gusts equally well. Changing out the frames gets you a 25 or 30 mph spread of usable wind ranges. Buying two "Pros" or one Shook Mesh? I've flown the full weave (100%) in 8 and steady winds over 40 mph with the same green race frame. If I switched to my B-series Pros I'd have had three of 'em out instead of just one.


Had I purchased my Shook first, I wouldn't own my full vent or any other vent.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 12:59 PM

This is kind of on topic ...

Does the % weave represent the percent of fabric relative to a full sail? For example: a 65% weave would be 65% fabric and 35% "holes" ... while a 40% weave would be 40% fabric and 60% holes.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:58 PM

I love my Shook Masterpiece! The higher the wind the better it handles!



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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:44 PM

Thanks for all the great info!! I have a 100% Shook on its way to me as we speak. Found one for sale!! Can't wait!!!
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:49 PM

This is kind of on topic ...

Does the % weave represent the percent of fabric relative to a full sail? For example: a 65% weave would be 65% fabric and 35% "holes" ... while a 40% weave would be 40% fabric and 60% holes.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:11 PM

This is kind of on topic ...

Does the % weave represent the percent of fabric relative to a full sail? For example: a 65% weave would be 65% fabric and 35% "holes" ... while a 40% weave would be 40% fabric and 60% holes.

It would seem to me that if 100% is equivalent to a full-vent sail, 40% is equivalent to a mid-vent and the 75% is between a full- and mid-vent, the percentage probably indicates the amount of venting ("holes") relative to the full-vent's venting.

Looking at the full- and mid-vent sails, this appears to be about right. I have to say, though, that I've never calculated the amount of screening in the full- and mid-vent sails to compare them. :blue-sleepy: :lol:
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 04:08 PM

Bob,

You've got to be a little careful when Rich and Alden start working together ... they would leave Laural and Hardy speechless.

Rich didn't correct Alden on his 100% equals a full vent. He only corrected the mid-vent percentage. So, it does look like your logic makes sense:

100% = Full-vent
75% = Twix a full-vent and a mid-vent
40% = Mid-vent

Hmmm ... that means if Elliot built a mesh sail to be equivalent to an extra-vent, the designation would be something like 150%l!!!

Cheers,
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