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#1 Albroswift

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 04:02 PM

I'm sure this is covered already but I'm on the beach with a smart phone and can barly see the screen...
Brand new B pro std and race frame, sail seemed to twist around the spar at i would guess about 10 mph plus wind. Tighened the bungis, but hate messing with a brand new sail.
Is it possible to much wind for that frame?
Thanks--
Al
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 04:20 PM

If you have another REV 1.5 at hand, verify the rods are the same length(plus or minus a couple mm), between the two REVs.

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#3 Albroswift

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 04:26 PM

If you have another REV 1.5 at hand, verify the rods are the same length(plus or minus a couple mm), between the two REVs.

Identical to the exp frame. What would be the max wind for this setup?

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 05:04 PM

EXP frame has the same length rods, so your okay there.

The REV 1.5 will handle 10mph with ease. Really pushing it, I would guess up to 25-30 maybe even more. But you are starting to stretch the sail up there.

Hmm, I wonder if someone else has an idea.

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#5 Albroswift

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 05:21 PM

Is there a difference between the l/e tubes and the spar tubes on a race frame?
I cant see any.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

No idea what you mean by I/e tubes.
All rods, except the SLE rods, for the REV 1.5 are interchangeable and can be mixed amongst each other.
It is a different story for the REV I and REV II.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

Don't think there is any difference. Tubes aren't marked differently.

You could tie an overhand knot on the outside of the endcap to keep the bungee from sliding through toward the middle. Might be worth a try. Easy to undo.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:07 PM

L/E= leading edge. Sorry for the typing, smart phone. Is knotting the bungee a typical tune? I had the frame in my old sle andit seemed to center up prettyy good. Another thing i noticed was bridal on one side went inboard of the cap, the other one was outside. Made them both as in the photos, helped a little but the sail still wants to pull to the inside of the spar under load.
Thanks again--
Al

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

Hey Al, all the rods/tubes on a 1.5 frame are the same length - 31 inches - that includes original race, green race, 2-wrap, 3-wrap, 4-wrap, etc.. Some folks even mix the rods up to get a special feel ... 3-wrap center and 2-wrap wings for example.

Obviously the center tube stays in the center 'cuz the ferrels are glued in place, but even that tube is 31 inches long. As a side discussion, you should consider periodically rotating the verticals and the lending edge rods to prevent wear rings from forming where the verticals and the leading edge rods cross.

Bazer sews an extremely accurate sail, however, the tolerance stack-up of all the componets will necessitate some fine tuning of the bungies ... even right off the assembly table. I would guess that Bazer assembles the Pro's based on an average bungie setting. If your sail is a little lose for the way you fly, don't worry ... just snug it up a little. Sail tightness, like many things with Revs, is a personal preference.

Now, where are the pictures of where you're flying? You usually end up in some very neat places!!!

Cheers,
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 08:32 PM

Hey Al, all the rods/tubes on a 1.5 frame are the same length - 31 inches - that includes original race, green race, 2-wrap, 3-wrap, 4-wrap, etc.. Some folks even mix the rods up to get a special feel ... 3-wrap center and 2-wrap wings for example.

Obviously the center tube stays in the center 'cuz the ferrels are glued in place, but even that tube is 31 inches long. As a side discussion, you should consider periodically rotating the verticals and the lending edge rods to prevent wear rings from forming where the verticals and the leading edge rods cross.

Bazer sews an extremely accurate sail, however, the tolerance stack-up of all the componets will necessitate some fine tuning of the bungies ... even right off the assembly table. I would guess that Bazer assembles the Pro's based on an average bungie setting. If your sail is a little lose for the way you fly, don't worry ... just snug it up a little. Sail tightness, like many things with Revs, is a personal preference.

Now, where are the pictures of where you're flying? You usually end up in some very neat places!!!

Cheers,
Tom


Forgot the Canon's, but Ill snap a few with the camera phone and post them tomorrow, looks like it's shaping up to be a "A Day At The Beach" tomorrow at the beach!

Thanks for the tips!
Al

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 10:31 AM

Ensure the top side (leading edge side) of the vertical end caps are not loose then tighten up the bottom end caps.

I have my full sail pro hanging in the shower drying right now I simply cannot induce that last photo at all. I can get it past the bungee knot and it will stay there because its stuck on the outside of the knot, but the second I press the knot out the way it pops back to position.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:13 AM

Flew with 50# 120's yesterday about 10++mph and handeled pretty good with the bottom bungees knotted about half length. Didnt think about the top bungees, look at them next time. Before tightening the sail was actually pulling right past the wing spar on the inside.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:20 AM

I should say the wing spar was pulling past the sail on the outside, last post makes it sound like i have the frame on the wrong side!




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