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#1 audiorob

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 01:02 PM

What fabric are the barresi revs made out of?

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 01:37 PM

To be honest, I'm not sure, never cared, since they fly spot-on... I'll leave Ben to answer this.

However, the rumor mill says that we may see a premium-level Icarex B-Series hitting the market next year.

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 01:40 PM

However, the rumor mill says that we may see a premium-level Icarex B-Series hitting the market next year.



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Posted 25 July 2007 - 01:44 PM

Who cares what material they are made out of... it flys superb and it has John Barresi's name on it, is that not enough? hehe ;)

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 01:48 PM

Oh geez KiT, love ya... But sheesh! ;)

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:06 PM

What fabric are the barresi revs made out of?

It is definitely polyester. The manufacturer could be one of several.

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 04:09 PM

Oh geez KiT, love ya... But sheesh! ;)


What John?? Not like I shared my pillow with or spooned my B Series at night... oh wait nevermind ummm, where's the little off topic smiley with the sign?? hehe :P

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 05:31 PM

What John?? Not like I shared my pillow with or spooned my B Series at night... oh wait nevermind ummm, where's the little off topic smiley with the sign?? hehe :P


OK i'm not the only one who's been out in the sun too long :wacko:
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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:40 PM

Here's a sign, finally updated the emoticons to match Kitelife.

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 06:59 PM

im gonna guess icarex because of how thin the sails are with the 1.5 so i cant see the b being any diffrent
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 02:07 AM

So.. it's polyester?

Im particularly curious because I have had nylon revs and they DO NOT work well here due to the extreme humidity and my propensity to fly in rain.

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 02:15 AM

I think the Bs are made of .5 poly


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Posted 26 July 2007 - 06:55 AM

Perhaps Ben could comment. I can tell you when we had our custom sails made, Lolly confirmed that the only material rev uses was 0.65 Poly from a manufacturer in Torrance CA. So that is what we have. I would assume it was the same material.

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:18 AM

An icarex polycarbonate sail is the most desirable for tough conditions, it would be a welcomed addition to the Revolution line.

A polyester kite much more enjoyable is wet conditions, they don't gain any weight (like nylon) also the color lasts a lot longer before fading. All kites will fade with enough passage of time and exposure to UV though!

Icarex has a very distinctive feel to it, extremely slippery to sew with and it also costs the most to acquire. In the land of no wind we say it's worth the extra money and trouble.

The Rainbow material is toray (available from Bonnie Marvin/Hang'Em High Fabrics in richmond VA)

Icarex is a specific brand name, it's not available from bonnie by that name (wink!-wink!).
Her material is called poly 1/2 ounce with a polycarbonate coating (wink!, wink!)

Stever Ferrel (Kitestudio) also sells a poly material,... Harold uses it for his tie-dyed efforts. I think it's 3/4 ounces per square yard/meter.

Ixy is like 14 dollars per yard, nylon is about 6 bucks.
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Some designers prefer to work in Nylon, there are more colors and weights available, it's cheaper too, it can be painted without need of a pressure cooker to "set the dyes" also.

The Rev 1.5 SULs are polyester, not icarex but perfectly acceptable to any user. If you were doing it yourself you'd be wise to seek out Icarex. It's the same amount of construction work, but the end product will fly better and look better for much longer. Particularly important in no wind conditions!

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:28 PM

I can confirm, the B-Series sail is polyester... Not Icarex, but one of the premium brands.

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:29 AM

If Rev wants to make some Icarex sail revs they should contact Jon Trennepohl, because Jon is the North American distributor for Icarex sail cloth.; )

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 11:56 AM

Is there much difference between Icarex and what Rev is using? I built a few kites with Icarex back about 10-12 years ago, both 3/4oz and 1/2oz, and the current Rev fabric seems pretty similar to the 1/2oz Icarex when I compare the fabric side-to-side.

I will also note that my custom 1.5 SUL (just received from Rev) uses the same 1/2oz fabric as the custom vented 1.5 I received last fall. Rev doesn't seem to be using heavier fabric even on the higher-wind 1.5s. No mylar on either per my request.

Finally, I note that Rev seems a bit casual aligning the fabric. On some panels, on one side of the kite the warp threads are aligned along the edge (good) whereas on the other side the weft threads are aligned along the edge. I don't know if it matters with the loads on a 1.5, but I wouldn't do that if I was building it myself due to possible asymmetric stretching.

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