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#21 lamrith

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:58 PM

The frames are the same size between them. Rods are the same rods, but as mentioned the JB new comes with 2&3wrap for full sail and I think 3&4wrap for the venteds..

What sets the JB apart is the change in sail fabric and the panel layout. I am sure the crew will chime in on the particulars, but the JB is designed to get better as it works in and stretches, the vertical panels channel the wind better than the SLE panels.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:02 PM

Hi,

Are the sails the same size between the JB 1.5 and The Rev 1.5 SLE ? Is it the just the rods that are different, plus the JB comes with two frame/ rods ?

If it is then I see why the JB's are better as it will give me a wider wind range.

Within a 1/4" variation, they are the same size. The panel layout variation does make a difference. Then comes the material. All JB's made today are from Icarex Polyester. Kent mentioned recently that SLE is made from nylon. That will make a difference.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:10 PM

Thanks, I'll order a JB 1.5 tomorrow then Posted Image

Should I go for a standard first, will this give me the best wind range and upto to what mph max ?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:23 PM

I would say it depends on your general wind conditions.
If you general have gusty winds, for example, then go for a mid vent.

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#25 SAW

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 09:51 AM

I notice theres not much difference in wind range between the std and mid vent, would a std be better and full vent next ?

When would I use a mid ?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 10:45 AM

I do not know how low a mid will start working reliably, but a std can get in the air when you can hardly feel any breeze at all with a little work since it can fully cup the air, The mid's can't do that.

How low are the winds in your area most of the time? If they are often in that 2-10mph range you will likely want a full sail with 2 and 3 wrap frames.

I have flown my full sail with 3wrap (1st day) in just over 15mph winds, it was really twitchy and quick, but it worked. Repeated and use in that wind would stretch the sail prematurely though. A Mid would have been perfect that day, but I did not own one at the time. On the other side of it was yesterday when I was only getting a puff of wind I could barely feel, but that was enough to get the full sail with 2wrap up and moving. I am not even sure if I had consistent 3mph.

Beyond that I will let one of the pro's fill you in on the midvents range, I have not flown my mid in low winds, only in 10mph+. The venteds do fly very nice though, they are a touch smoother flying when you have the wind to fly them...

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 10:52 AM

As I fly duel line in light winds also mostly inland woud it be better to get a mid or full vent to use when the wind pics up :confused!:

Why is so hard to choose a colour/design arrhhh purple/black or purple/grey :kid_cussing:

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:11 AM

few of us, if any!... have acquired a mid-vent before owning BOTH the full vent & their full sailed kites. I'm inland my first few kites were all full sails, next go for the other end of the wind, the howling stuff. The mid-vent is a great kite, but only because of it's transitioning between the two extremes.

I like a full sail to at least double digits on a wind meter, but I flail and love to jerk the kite around de-powering and snapping it back to fill again with pressure. Friends can't wait to get out their mid-vents as a first choice, pushing it lower and higher than might seem appropriate. Ultimately it's all about you and your own preferences.

Heck, I'll fly my Zen to double digits !

colors/design parameters are another example of personal preference, I have some ugly kites and some beautiful ones. When the sky is filled with Revs, I like mine to still stand-out (but don't we all feel like that?)

I just had a couple of Eliot's Shook's mesh masterpiece kites created (wife only knows about one of them!) I furnished some R/W/B tie-dyed icarex and special leading edge material, all the rest of the kite is white stripes except one in color and the opening pattern is his 70-75%, . . . so basically these 2 wings will be equal to mid-vents.

Now, I just need to la"MASTER" them (with one in each hand).

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:18 PM

One standard JB 1.5 in purple/black ordered Posted Image

Gone with the 90lb/80ft lines, 120ft is for mostly team flying right ?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:20 AM

One standard JB 1.5 in purple/black ordered Posted Image

Gone with the 90lb/80ft lines, 120ft is for mostly team flying right ?


Good choice. I prefer the purple/black to the purple/grey. Yes, 120s are the standard for team. 80s are nice to have too, but I prefer 120s all the time, not just for team.



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