42 replies to this topic

[beach]

Here's whats going on and I'm reaching out to you for your thoughts, earlier this year we had a bunch of "custom
B-Pros" with black centers that the printer made a mistake with the " logo " and it flakes here and there after a
bit but since then Revolution and Bazzer have fixed the problem (Bazzer did) but this leaves me with 15 all different
color B Pros that can't pass inspection....... So my question is do I sell them for say $250 each which is a big saving
for people or just destroy them cause they are not perfect and I'm looking to you the " Family " for your thoughts,
we found a problem fixed it but I really hate to destroy these B Pros for a little problem so give me both barrels
and tell me what to do and I'll do it..... Ben

[Rev'ed up]

My vote is to keep em and sell em. If you get a chace take a picture of them so we can get anidea of what they look like. I always wanted a Pro.

Thanks Ben!

[mbro]

Heres what I'm thinking, send me one, I'll try it for say.... a year or two, see if bazzers fix holds up, then we'll go from there (I'm kidding) Sell em. A little blemish so what.
Michael
If I had the $$$$ I'd buy in a heartbeat!!!!

[RevWizard]

They are perfectly good kites with only a minor cosmetic flaw.
Sell them at the reduced price to people who will acknowledge that they are buying them at a greatly reduced price because they have a minor flaw which does not effect their capability to fly properly.

[--Pete]

Sell at discount. Post the colors/designs.

[goestoeleven]

I'm not sure I really want to know about something like this . . . . or maybe I should say that I really hope my wife doesn't find out that I found out about this situation. I'd really hate for you to destroy those B Pros. I have a feeling this community might want to save those poor, poor kites from destruction. I know I would. Especially if any of them were, say, extra vented (dibs). Or in colors that I like.

They'd also make really, really good prizes for the video contest ;-)

No kite should be destroyed because of a little imperfection . . . why I'd have to toss my whole bag!

[mdilucca]

I'll give you 5 bucks Ben!!! But a bit more for a maple leaf pro!!!!

Cheers bro!!!
Mario

[tonycarl]

Destroy them! Although it may seem wasteful, you have a reputation for building quality kites. It might bite you in the a** later because one day it might show up in someone else-es hands and all they see is a inferior product. Just another point of view................

[mousieo]

Hi Ben,
I have a suggestion. Instead of selling them, what about using these kites to teach new young fliers... and knowing how many families cannot afford a reg priced kite, give them away to eager young fliers.. not sure about details, but a general idea.

I seem to remember a young man that was given a kite to learn on, by you ...that kite opened a whole world up to him, and changed his life and mine..

Changing the world one kite at a time.. has a nice ring to it..

My gut.. don't destroy them... there is a reason it happened.. make it a good one.
Amy

[awindofchange]

I suggest you print a big huge "DEMO-Not for resale" on the sail, then ship them out to all the shops for xxx.xx price and let them use them to give lessons or let people demo what these awesome kites are like.

[dazlarsen]

Send one to me and I can use it for letting people try before they buy when I am at festivals over here in England

[quaa714]

I agree with Kent.....get them out there as learner kites for the stores to use......or for that matter, send some to the established clubs that meet regularly to have their new learners use or people that walk up and wanna try..

[--Pete]

Definitely mark them in some indelible way, so that they can be identified as sub-standard printing.

[Cath Shook]

I suggest you print a big huge "DEMO-Not for resale" on the sail, then ship them out to all the shops for xxx.xx price and let them use them to give lessons or let people demo what these awesome kites are like.

I agree with Kent - we stores are always in need of a demo - I turned my personal 'stock' B's into store demos a year ago, and it made a huge difference in what level of Rev was good for an entry to quads OR the next kite. (I won't share/OPK my custom B except with experienced flyers.)

I've actually seen one of the original Rev 1 store demos with Demo stamped on it. Maybe in a discrete area to not hide the beautiful craftsmanship of Bazzer.

[boomzilla]

i think that bazzer should decide, he is the artist...most artists edit heavily & only want their best work shown, what do you want to do bazzer?

[goestoeleven]

I agree with Kent - we stores are always in need of a demo - I turned my personal 'stock' B's into store demos a year ago, and it made a huge difference in what level of Rev was good for an entry to quads OR the next kite. (I won't share/OPK my custom B except with experienced flyers.)

I've actually seen one of the original Rev 1 store demos with Demo stamped on it. Maybe in a discrete area to not hide the beautiful craftsmanship of Bazzer.

Scratch my earlier post - getting the kites into the hands of people who will help build the rev community - whether it is demos for stores (as many people have suggested) or (as mousieo suggested) into the hands of kids or organizations who will use them and expand the Rev community - both of these are great ideas.

I'm presuming Bazzer's OK with you selling them / donating, etc., or you wouldn't have posted this thread in the first place (boomzilla brings up another good point);

[mbro]

Excellent idea, Trainer kites!!!! The young ones are the future of this sport.

[Watty]

Hi Ben,
I have a suggestion. Instead of selling them, what about using these kites to teach new young fliers... and knowing how many families cannot afford a reg priced kite, give them away to eager young fliers.. not sure about details, but a general idea.

I seem to remember a young man that was given a kite to learn on, by you ...that kite opened a whole world up to him, and changed his life and mine..

Changing the world one kite at a time.. has a nice ring to it..

My gut.. don't destroy them... there is a reason it happened.. make it a good one.
Amy

I like this. I know of a similar story

[SkyPuppet]

I think the kites should be sold. Pictures would be good, and a breakdown on how many full-sail, mid-vent, full-vent.

I have yet to meet a person who can make out the Revolution logo on the center panel, while the kite is in flight anyways. And most can barely make it out when its stationary on the ground, from 120' away.
While a beginner will definitely grasp the basic concepts of Rev flying with a 'Pro, a kite of this caliber is wasted on beginners. The name says it all!

Sell these 'Pros. On the next production run of SLEs (with 1/4" LE ), I'll come to town and kick the printer real quick. Those would make the best trainers!

[mousieo]

Exactly Watty! And you and Connor and others like to share what was shared with us... it's the future of kiting.