[mbkite]

Hay is ok to ask hows the best way to un due a 2 line tangled mess. Spectra

[RevWizard]

mbkite, on Jun 25 2007, 07:21 PM, said:

Hay is ok to ask hows the best way to un due a 2 line tangled mess. Spectra

First, have patience.
Second, never pull hard on the lines as it might pull a knot tight and make things worse.

[AldenMiler]

Or the one Antman will not mention in public... Scissors.



-Alden

[Gaiiden]

Also remember that any knots that form are made by the lines wrapping around each other, not by a single line so make sure you constantly pull gently on both lines in order to loosen a knot.

And patience is key

[Jay Nunes]

Or someone is trying to tell you to Only fly Quad Line Kites...

I use a Pin and a lot a paitence like everyone Said Already..
It will come out for sure...

Jay

[awindofchange]

One thing I have found is to start working on the mess in the center of the tangle instead of trying to work one line free from the end. Usually just softly working the tangled mess out wider and wider from the middle out will take care of nearly all of the tangles by themselves. As said, don't pull hard and try to keep the mess as loose as possible. Patience is a must. Best to do if you are at home watching a tv show or something - helps the time go by quicker.

[Kitelife]

Another thing to keep in mind is when we get tangles in our lines, they're usually are loops around loops around loops... I never start pulling the end of a line through until I'm very close to having the knot out, and mainly try to toss the line like spaghetti, but slow-like.

In my experience, many of the loops within the knot loosen... Then without over-tightening, I work those loops back and forth, finding an occasional one that just pops out at the end [of the loop] and comes undone.

If I spend 5 minutes sorting the lines out like this on a big mess, I've usually got most of it done.

Of course, a lot of it is simply being relaxed when you do it... Agitation and knots don't mix.

[John F]

Jay Nunes, on Jun 26 2007, 04:49 AM, said:

Or someone is trying to tell you to Only fly Quad Line Kites...

I use a Pin and a lot a paitence like everyone Said Already..
It will come out for sure...

Jay

Pin sounds like a good thing to have available but maybe have one with a rounded blunt point. Then it would be more like a marlin spike ( I think that is what sailors ) This way you don't puncture the lines. I think they sell needles like that in sewing stores for carpets or some other types of heavy coarse weave materials.

[antman]

alden .. i have had some nasty tangles in my day but i know what one your talking about if it was the one that i got flying on th boardwalk and the wind switched and the lines pulled tight i thought for sure that day i was going to lose a set of lines dues to untieable knots but after some time i got them free ..

[mbkite]

I can even tangle them when i UN wined but i do like to fly. Has any one tried rc planes and heli. No lines.

[Fraser]

Best advice I got on this recently from MrDenny, JohnMitchell, WindofChange and others, was tension, tension, tension. Hook onto your groundstake and tension your lines as you slowly open them out. The spectra is so slippy that just pulling on the lines sorts out a huge amount of the tangling. Of course, if you already have an obvious birds nest in the middle, staking one end and pulling hard on the other would br madness - all the 'teasing out' opreations described above are essential - but having a fixed end to work away from as you do it is hugely helpful.

I find it really helpful to remember the 'loop' thing that John mentioned too. When you think about it, the tangles can't be caused by a free end going on some kind of journey on its own - the ends will be fixed to handles or at least larksheaded to another line end (unless you just stuffed all your lines separately into a big bag! ). So in actual fact, the tangles aren't knots in the conventional sense - it's really just looping. Keeping it quite loose as you attempt to free them should help you be able to free these loops.

This sounds contradictory - 'keep it loose' AND 'apply tension'! Sorry! LOL It's more a case of freeing up the looping and THEN applying tension prgressively along the lines....

Err.... I'm all confused now. I'll get my coat. TAXI!

[Baloo]

Taxi for Mr Fraser, Taxi for Mr Fraser, ;-}

[Fraser]

Baloo, on Jul 21 2007, 10:29 PM, said:

Taxi for Mr Fraser, Taxi for Mr Fraser, ;-}

Yeah, yeah, I know! LOL

[FortFlyer]

Baloo, on Jul 21 2007, 05:29 PM, said:

Taxi for Mr Fraser, Taxi for Mr Fraser, ;-}

I know the perfect driver as well, Call Danny DeVito and have him send Christopher Lloyd aka Jim Ignatowski, that would be classic

[DWayne]

Jay Nunes, on Jun 26 2007, 03:49 AM, said:

Or someone is trying to tell you to Only fly Quad Line Kites...

I use a Pin and a lot a paitence like everyone Said Already..
It will come out for sure...

Jay

Chinese chop sticks work really well. They're pointed and enamal coated. Makes opening up those birds nests a lot easier.

Denny