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#1 xC4RB0NxR3104Dx

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 04:55 PM

I noticed that on this forum, a lot of people mention vented revs, but with race rods. Maybe it's because I'm new to this, but this makes no sense to me. Vented revs are obviously made for high wind conditions, so why would you take a vented rev, and put the lightest rod set you could in it. Does it create a unique and fun flying experience, or is it just an opinion thing. If you did have a setup like that, what kind of winds would you fly it in???

I was just hoping someone could explain this to me, because in the kitelife poll, the crowd favorite seems to Be a Vented B-series with racerods, and this honestly makes little sense to mePosted Image
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 09:38 PM

OK, lots of people like venteds for the smoothness! The vents even out the bumps and other stuff! The race rods lower the wind range of the venteds by lightening them up!! That means you can fly vents in lighter winds and take advantage of the smoothness vents offer!! Posted Image

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 07:27 AM

Loosely speaking, vented Revs are smoother and more precise (although they have less "snap" in the controls)...

Using a UL frame lowers the wind range of the vented kite so you can enjoy it's characteristics in lighter winds.

A vented 1.5 with Race frame is good in roughly 5 mph up to about 12-14 mph, give or take.

The key is to watch the curve in the leading edge... If it curves too much, then it's time to switch to a heavier frame. :)

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 08:12 PM

Thx, that tells me exactly what I wanted to know. Maybe I'll try it if I'm ever crazy enough to buy a 2nd rev :P
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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:55 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmm vented with race rods, on 120's luv it.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:45 AM

Thx, that tells me exactly what I wanted to know. Maybe I'll try it if I'm ever crazy enough to buy a 2nd rev :P


Oh, you will. If you have a full sail and you start flying with others it won't be long. Then, after the full vent, a mid vent will be on the cards to carry that vented smoothness into a lower wind range.



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Posted 18 June 2011 - 09:03 AM

Oh, you will. If you have a full sail and you start flying with others it won't be long. Then, after the full vent, a mid vent will be on the cards to carry that vented smoothness into a lower wind range.



That was another question I meant to ask, when most people say "vented rev with racerods" are they talking about full or midvent.

And I doubt I'm getting a 2nd kite anytime soon, because my family went kiting w/o me and managed to lose my lines and handles. So I need to replace those before I can fly again.

Something slightly off-topic, I was thinking about replacing my line with shanti skybond (I under stand Kent from a wind of change loves it) Is this a mistake, or will I really not notice a difference other than $15, or is this just a complete and total mistake.
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 09:56 AM

That was another question I meant to ask, when most people say "vented rev with racerods" are they talking about full or midvent.

And I doubt I'm getting a 2nd kite anytime soon, because my family went kiting w/o me and managed to lose my lines and handles. So I need to replace those before I can fly again.

Something slightly off-topic, I was thinking about replacing my line with shanti skybond (I under stand Kent from a wind of change loves it) Is this a mistake, or will I really not notice a difference other than $15, or is this just a complete and total mistake.


When someone says 'vented with race rods' they are referring to a full vent. This is mainly because the 'vented with race rods' thing was around before the mid-vent was created, so it sticks that way. ;)

Sorry to hear about the lost lines and such. Skybond will work, but it's not my preferred line. The skybond line reminds me of a rubber band. It stretches a lot more than LPG does, and I notice this when flying because it feels kind of like the difference between a BMX bike and a mountain bike. The skybond is like the mountain bike because it has a lot more suspension, and cushions everything a bit. LPG is like the BMX bike where it may not be as smooth, but the control is a bit better. I feel like skybond dampens and absorbs the flyer's inputs, making it harder to fly with fast sharp corners and things like that. So, Skybond is not something I would buy, but it will work fine for someone who is starting out, or has more of a soft flying style and may prefer the absorbency of it.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 08:01 AM

That was another question I meant to ask, when most people say "vented rev with racerods" are they talking about full or midvent.

Further to Watty's answer. Don't even think about mid-vent until you have the full vent sorted. Right now your priority should be about extending your wind range and there is enough overlap between full sail and full vent to put the mid-vent into the "nice but not essential" category, you will get way more bangs for your buck with a full vent.

I'm not saying don't buy a mid vent, I am just saying not yet.
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 11:11 AM

I disagree completely on the assessment of Skybond lines above, no more stretch than anything else I've ever tried and I'm a yank & spank flailer by preference. The fifty pound strength is flexible, soft. mushy, but so is LPG in this weight class. No difference in the 90/100 weight except skybond is more slippery with multiple wraps.

I don't recommend anyone pick their lines solely based upon the price though! Test independently and determine your own preferences (unless you're sponsored,.... HA!) Not for an hour or a weekend either, but over the course of several months.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 12:35 PM

Also, if you fly with a group regularly, try and match lines with them. Different makes can wear each other to a greater/lesser extent.
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 08:58 PM

Even Better, Mid-Vent with Silver Bullets in 1-3 mph its heaven on a string :kid_smartass:

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 01:57 PM

Today's equipment
B Series Mid vent
Race rods
120's
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 10:50 AM

Today's equipment
B Series Mid vent
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Daz - What wind speeds were you flying in?? Posted Image

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 12:15 PM

It was around 8mph with gusts to around 13 or 14.But what you can't see is the huge building to the left of the kite and the 100ft trees to the right.It's a one wind flying area and yesterday I had that wind,first time for months :-)
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:20 PM

Even Better, Mid-Vent with Silver Bullets in 1-3 mph its heaven on a string :kid_smartass:

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"Silver Bullets"?????? lol, can any1 explain? My guess would be the 2g weights that came with the b-series
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 12:05 AM

Reference - http://www.revkites....r-bullets-rods/

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:10 AM

Reference - http://www.revkites....r-bullets-rods/


Thanks for the reference ;)
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