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#61 Choccy

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 02:22 AM

The life of a lonely flyer leads to ......let Sparky have a play as you can see below ...

Huh ? :confused!:
that's lonely is it ? :lol:

Glad you finally got to have a go ;)
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#62 Jonesey

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:16 AM

Hey Jonesey, I just wondered how you set it up. One handle through each pulley or top line through one bottom through the other?
Difficult to remember now but is JB on a single loop for his stake or two lops?
I would have thought if you run one handle through each pully it should not alter the line lengths.
I can see how it might aler with top through one and bottom through the other.
But then hey what do I know.


Cleanest lead is bottom lines through bottom blocks/top through top ... will have another play today as it was a bit too breezy yesterday so hoping the wind doesnt keep building like it has so far today !!

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 06:30 PM

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 01:56 AM

Just made a YouTube playlist of dogstaking, for those who are interested...



Who all has tried it recently?

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 03:23 AM

Who all has tried it recently?


Tried it a few times over the summer with a rig similar to yours, It's pretty fun but it does eat through lines pretty quickly had more of my kites come with lines I wouldn't care.

Ben seems to have a nice like friendly rig especially seeing as I don't sleeve my lines it would work for me.

Seems there was a spurt for awhile and some great ideas for pulley systems that seemed to have fizzled out, too bad some were looking good I might have to PM the builder of the one Ben has and see what I can work out with that.

Unfortunately I don't work in a machine shop anymore nor do I have access to one or I would just come up with something myself, Oh well they say good things come to those who wait.

Hmmm just a thought maybe I can bribe someone with a kite for a kick a$$ dogstake rig :confused!: theres a thought.
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Posted 21 November 2008 - 03:26 AM

I spoke with Iwan (designer of Ben's stake) recently, and he was still working out the issue of lines jumping the pulley and getting stuck in the space on either side... Too bad, I'm DYING to get on a decent rig!

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 03:31 AM

I spoke with Iwan (designer of Ben's stake) recently, and he was still working out the issue of lines jumping the pulley and getting stuck in the space on either side... Too bad, I'm DYING to get on a decent rig!


You and me both, It's quite fun and I have lots of catching up to do :kid_smartass:
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Posted 21 November 2008 - 06:21 AM

I've had a play the last couple of times out with a carabiner and am just starting to get a feel for it but the carabiner caused a lot of friction on the lines. Have been out to the Yacht Chandlers in Conwy today and picked up this little beauty - it was 25 so it better bloody work!!! It's a triple pulley so i may only use two - there wasn't a huge choice but apparently you CAN get these in a quad model too - the other mini pulleys they had were bearing-less and had massive gaps. Try as i might i can't seem to get my lines caught in any way so i'm hopeful it will work well.

Will let you know how it goes as i have Big Bri and some of the other northern lot coming over for play time in the snow tomorrow

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:26 PM

I'm DYING to get on a decent rig!


Do I need to save ya John??? I might be convinced to get out in the shop and make some chips, even got some ideas. Posted Image

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:51 PM

Honestly?

I'd LOVE to try any decent rig, I'm in serious need. ;)

Best option of all, would be if I could "clip" my lines in and out, as opposed to having to string them through from the end every time (common for all designs thus far)... But it's a small factor, just having a well functioning, smooth set up would be enough.

Shoot, a good enough rig, I might even trade a Rev for. <grin>

Sorry, I had to do it.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:02 PM

John...
That was so sweeeeeet! I haven't been lucky enough to try it, YET . I know I'll get a shot, though.
Hmmmm, I just clicked that some of my friends that are welders, iron workers, etc. have friends that build and create things as needed. (I'm in need of kite stake, sooooooo......) If I can get the parts, I know they can put anything together. I'll keep you posted...


btw, you changed the link setup to YouTube, right? It's very cool! Bravo....

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:05 PM

A rig with 4 independant pulleys, no problem with the line slipping down the side of the pulleys, no decernable friction on the lines as you move them independantly and where you simply open up the pulleys and slip in the lines it was tested in the UK yesterday. Pleased to say it worked perfecly. Hovers in all orientations were easy, though it was also easy to suddenly find yourself totally confused! Dive stops no problem. A swift tug to get some power was fine. Landing on your own head a doddle.

Mark 3 is, in other words, complete and trialed. Finalised production is this ready.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 04:04 AM

Sailor, looking forward to mine... For independent testing, of course. ;)

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 04:56 AM

Mark 3 is, in other words, complete and trialed. Finalised production is this ready.


Sign me up for one when ready for sale.
I haven't dog staked since my dualie days a long, long time ago.
Quad dog staking, especially in small confined areas, looks to be the ticket.

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 09:57 PM

A rig with 4 independant pulleys, no problem with the line slipping down the side of the pulleys, no decernable friction on the lines as you move them independantly and where you simply open up the pulleys and slip in the lines it was tested in the UK yesterday. Pleased to say it worked perfecly. Hovers in all orientations were easy, though it was also easy to suddenly find yourself totally confused! Dive stops no problem. A swift tug to get some power was fine. Landing on your own head a doddle.

Mark 3 is, in other words, complete and trialed. Finalised production is this ready.



Very, very cool. Do you plan on getting the "JB stamp of approval" or just put it out there? I'm really interested in trying this. I've yet to ever have seen this done in person.
Please put me on the list when they're ready.
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 11:31 AM

Just updating this thread with fresh material. ;)

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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxHliWcDFc0"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=NxHliWcDFc0[/url]

And, the stake I'm using now...

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This beautiful beast was made by Mikey Devereaux... 50+ hours of labor and passion. :)

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 08:33 PM

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All told, it was actually fun to make! Thanks JB for the kind words.

Thought I would add a couple more pictures. One in progress, one finished.
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 09:00 PM

:kid_loved: :blue-love: :kid_loved: :blue-love: :kid_loved: :blue-love:

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 10:49 AM

In the Dogstake - Kymera vid, the dogstake actually looks, um.... responsive :)

Wicked cool

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