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#21 Watty

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:38 PM

I'm eager to see the pic, so I can go build one. Ever since I saw John B's Little Red Riding Hood, I wanted to try it.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:42 PM

I'm eager to see the pic, so I can go build one. Ever since I saw John B's Little Red Riding Hood, I wanted to try it.



Look at the 8th post on this string Watty. I went to take a pic of mine today and my digital camera says no battery with a new battery in it.

Zee, Not much at all, The dogsteak was around $10 and that is the major part. I don't even remember what the rest cost which means not much.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 12:26 PM

See I did make one. A friend had his camera at work last night so we took these. Wow was he confused when he saw this thing. If you look close you can see that by screwing the tips on it actually stretched the metal a bit which I hope holds it together a bit longer. I plan to take it to St Augustine this weekend to let some pros try it out show me the fine points.. (Hear that Jay and Chef)

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 02:15 PM

WOW I could dogstake my powerblast 2-4 on that, nice job let us know how it works out.
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 10:04 AM

I was just wondering if dog staking caused extra wear on the kite strings. I've had the same set of quad lines for about 4 years now and I was unsure if the increased friction between the strings and surface cause the strings to wear faster.

I would appreciate any advice possible from John or anyone experienced at dog staking.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 10:08 AM

I was just wondering if dog staking caused extra wear on the kite strings. I've had the same set of quad lines for about 4 years now and I was unsure if the increased friction between the strings and surface cause the strings to wear faster.

I would appreciate any advice possible from John or anyone experienced at dog staking.

Thanks,
McKenzie


Well I suppose it must, to a degree, but with ceramic inserts to the rings, or even just a highly polished metal surface, I would imagine it would be considerably less wearing than a couple of twists - which is happening much of the time you're flying. So I wouldn't think it was a problem.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 04:36 PM

My stake puts a TON of wear on my lines... On a good run, I hopefully get anywhere from 10-25 hours out of a set of lines on dogstake.

Yeah, it's a high "churn and burn" rate... But golly, dogstake is SO worth it. ;)

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 04:47 PM

My stake puts a TON of wear on my lines... On a good run, I hopefully get anywhere from 10-25 hours out of a set of lines on dogstake.

Yeah, it's a high "churn and burn" rate... But golly, dogstake is SO worth it. ;)


Thanks for answering that John I was meaning to ask that very question.

I think I'm going to try my idea of a pair of sealed rollers guaranteed to not bind I'll keep you updated.
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 05:01 PM

Yes, please! ;)

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Posted 17 July 2007 - 01:42 PM

I finally got all of the materials prepared and was ready to weld the fishing eyelets to the U-bolt when the wleder told me that the welding would cause the plastic lining to melt out. He saved the lining buy enclosing the wnds in a cold water soaked rag. You may want to enclose that in your request.

I just got the stuff back today and hopefully I can give it a try tomorrow. Wish me luck. :rolleyes:

Thanks for all the advice I really appreciate it. I'll probably be asking to technique tips by tomorrow.

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Posted 17 July 2007 - 02:23 PM

dogstakeing a power blast now that would be cool ... i whink the kite would pull the stake out of the ground so youll want something bigger
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Posted 17 July 2007 - 06:13 PM

dogstakeing a power blast now that would be cool ... i whink the kite would pull the stake out of the ground so youll want something bigger


As long as you dont lock in the power and do it on the edge of the window I think its doable.
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 02:24 AM

Got hankerin to try dog-staking so went out and set up this little rig.
Takes some careful rigging at set up but works sweet once done.
Man it seems to take a bit to get your head around flyin that way though.
Pics are of my mate Col flyin my vented b-series.
(apologies for the quality - only had my phone with me :) )

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 08:17 AM

Sweet!!! I've been considering a rig that like that with pulleys, but worried about a line jumping into the space on either side of the pulley.

Experiences so far?

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 12:42 PM

Hi John, this set up looks very similar to what Dave Brittain used, and that always seemed fine. I think he mentioned to me about not having all lines go into one pulley as that caused some binding. And as long as you are using long lines, then the length of the lines will help prevent lines jumping onto the axle of the pulley. Due to the angle at which they approach the pulley.

Another option if not using pulleys is to use Nylon or some similar low friction material, in rings. I 've seen fishing rod rings used, they have a ceramic ring, you can get them in a big size which works.

Not been much call for this since STACK cancelled innovation as a class many years ago...

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 12:44 PM

The last rig I saw Brittain on was made using four ceramic rings, vaguely similar to the rig I use now (except I only have 2).

There's another thread on this topic somewhere here. ;)

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 12:54 PM

The last rig I saw Brittain on was made using four ceramic rings, vaguely similar to the rig I use now (except I only have 2).

There's another thread on this topic somewhere here. ;)


1stly apologies for not reading earlier posts - (fishing rings) DOH!

2nd,ly I have seen a four line rig with 4 pulleys side by side, if it wasn't Dave I'm now trying to remember who it might have been??? Each line went into a seperate pulley.

Having said that the pulley rug above is SWEET!

Off topic have you tried Rev & Rad (or similar), Rev from the hands Rad from waist, Rev on shorter lines than Rad. Scott Augenbaugh, did this at Bristol in 91, looked very cool and it's fairy easy. Rad's are good as they are nice and slow.

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:07 PM

Rad?

I can fly a Rev from hands and dual from hips, same time, but I think that's not the same?

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:45 PM

Sweet!!! I've been considering a rig that like that with pulleys, but worried about a line jumping into the space on either side of the pulley.

Experiences so far?


Only had 2 sessions so far and the first was really just sorting out the rig. The second session of about 2 hours with the rig sorted with Col's help, was a hoot!
The pulleys I selected sit almost flush on the side on the side plate so I'm hoping that won't be an issue.
What was surprising was just how hard the pulleys work. We left the session thinking "no need for mods.....yet"
It would have been easier if there was a "clip in system for the lines instead of having to thread them but figure it may be easier and better to dedicate a set of lines to this and just leave the whole rig set up with lines already threaded.

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 02:03 PM

It would have been easier if there was a "clip in system for the lines instead of having to thread them but figure it may be easier and better to dedicate a set of lines to this and just leave the whole rig set up with lines already threaded.

I've run into the same issues myself.

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