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Kite Staking Question For John B.

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 02:26 PM

I recently tried kite staking with 100" lines and a standard stake (golf ball top)

well it worked OK for a bit I think I'm missing something though, do you use a screw in style stake ? and I'm sure you use longer lines what would you suggest ?

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 03:04 PM

View PostFortFlyer, on Jun 13 2007, 03:26 PM, said:

I recently tried kite staking with 100" lines and a standard stake (golf ball top)

well it worked OK for a bit I think I'm missing something though, do you use a screw in style stake ? and I'm sure you use longer lines what would you suggest ?

Thanks in Advance, Jim

I was never good at it. I kept clobbering myself with the REV. I was using a dog stake which screws in to the ground. Lines I think were 100ft.
John Barresi is the absolute pro on this.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 04:43 PM

Jim, here's a past posting on the subject...

http://kitelife.com/...amp;hl=dogstake

I do use a dog stake (or screw), but it has diamond-polished ceramic rings attached to it through which the lines run.

The link above should provide a little more info on this. ;)

As for line length, just remember... Whatever you fly with is "cut" in half, since it doubles back to you through the stake.

I generally prefer 120' lines, which end up giving me roughly 60' of fly line from stake to kite.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 05:38 PM

I was watching one of John B. videos and was wondering how you were flying and holding the kite. At first i thought some one else was flying. Very clever ideas..
When the kite top is towards you are the controls reversed. right is left and left is right. ?
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 05:58 PM

True, unless you switch the handles. ;)

Then, you look at the back of the kite, and pretend it's the front.

Still weird the first few times, but the controls are normal.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 06:42 PM

Well looks like yet again I will be constructing another flying apparatus LOL gotta love it.

Now I know why I put a "Revolution Addiction" in Japanese lettering appliqué on my ultralight, its so true.
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Posted 14 June 2007 - 06:24 AM

View PostBarresi, on Jun 13 2007, 05:43 PM, said:

I do use a dog stake (or screw), but it has diamond-polished ceramic rings attached to it through which the lines run.


Sounds fancy!
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Posted 14 June 2007 - 01:44 PM

Here are a couple photos of John's stake from Kite Party 2006:

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 02:01 PM

Thanks Mike. ;)
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Posted 14 June 2007 - 03:17 PM

well john i will say seeing you do it in person is much better then watching the video ;) im just glad to say i was one of the few to see it live
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Posted 14 June 2007 - 03:37 PM

Much better than the video, ;)
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 06:10 AM

You should have seen his Little Red Riding Hood at WSIKF (2 years ago i think). It was amazing! That was by far my favorite ballet I have ever seen!

My G-ma asks him to do it again every time she sees him (once a year at WSIKF).
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:47 PM

Wow, that little modded caribiner looks like it has fishing rod hoops on it....
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 09:42 AM

Yep, with diamond-polished ceramic rings. ;)
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 08:21 PM

Notice that the fishing rod tips are welded to the "V" shaped rod. The ring and wrapped connector on the screw-in dog stake look to be is welded closed. Also, the connector used to connect the "V" shaped rod to the dog stake ring is a small version of what is used for safety chains on a trailer. It screws closed.

All in all, a very strong and simple set-up.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:56 PM

Where can I get these materials? I would love to give it a try some time.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 06:19 PM

View Postmditty, on Jul 9 2007, 09:56 PM, said:

Where can I get these materials? I would love to give it a try some time.



I just make one. Just like Johns.
Dog stake at the pet store.
U bolt at the hardware store.
Rod tips at the bait shop.

I haven't used it yet but it looks great. The rod tips fit very snug over the U bolt ends and after forceing them on they spread a bit and screwed on the rest of the way leaving no need to glue or weld.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:27 PM

Just a recommendation, you'll probably want to weld or glue them... There is quite a bit of torque on the stake, more than you'd see flying normally. ;)

Any chance of a photo?
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 09:09 PM

View PostBarresi, on Jul 10 2007, 12:27 AM, said:

Just a recommendation, you'll probably want to weld or glue them... There is quite a bit of torque on the stake, more than you'd see flying normally. ;)

Any chance of a photo?

Thanks John.
I am sure you are totaly correct. It just looked so good this way, I figured I would use it like this till it broke then glue it. No big deal when you’re not in competitions and I am just doing it for FUN. :lol: You of course need it rock solid every time. I will try to get a picture tomorrow and post it.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 09:35 PM

MrDenny, what did it cost to build. Approximately.

I plan on trying the dog staking when I've got my rev but not before i have actually learn to fly the thing. So would be good to know the cost we can expect.
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