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#1 Madquad

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:42 AM

Yesterday much better weather.

Sun was shining...and not that stormy wind anymore.
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80 Ft lines.
3 up to 6 Mph wind...just enough !! (Next time my Zen i guess..)

A sort of Revolution



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#2 Felix Mottram

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 01:25 PM

Yesterday much better weather.

Sun was shining...and not that stormy wind anymore.
B-series Pro with Race rods
80 Ft lines.
3 up to 6 Mph wind...just enough !! (Next time my Zen i guess..)

A sort of Revolution

Best regards

Marc/Madquad


Hi Marc,

Very nice flying.

I would make one observation and please do not take it in a negative way because it is meant as encouragement.

"At the end of many of the turns there is an a visible 'adjustment'." I think that it is possible to learn how to compensate for varying wind speeds in order to eliminate this but it does require learning a more physical interaction with the kite and lines. EDIT This is what I aspire to!

I am still struggling with figuring out how to translate this into 'team practice' as it often requires some very quick moves on the ground which can be problematic if one is in close proximity with other fliers, as in less than arms length away... <grins>

Felix

Edited by Felix Mottram, 10 February 2011 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 10 February 2011 - 05:47 PM

Another awesome video!!!:)

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 08:07 PM

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 12:25 PM

"At the end of many of the turns there is an a visible 'adjustment'." I think that it is possible to learn how to compensate for varying wind speeds in order to eliminate this but it does require learning a more physical interaction with the kite and lines. EDIT This is what I aspire to!


Felix


I think it is really hard to avoid this. Especially in low wind conditions. When the sail is fully loaded and the kite is stopped sailload drops to nothing (because of the lack of wind), at this point i guess you mean the pilot must walk backwards.
This is the physical interaction you were writing about.
We will give it a try together Posted Imageat Berck Felix !!

Things are much easier when the circumstances are perfect (Lets say flying a Mid-Vented Pro with race rods in 11 Mph wind)
The vented parts will flatten out the differences in windspeed.

I hope for a day like that, in that case i will make another movie.

For me the road to perfection is the biggest challenge in Rev-flying.
It is an everlasting challenge to improve things....I know i will never reach the point of perfection....that makes this thing so addictive.


( P.s :My English is not always perfect maybe, and sometimes it is hard to describe the things i would like to describe...but ..i try my best)

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Edited by Madquad, 11 February 2011 - 12:32 PM.

It's not the size of your Rev.. its how you use it.
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#6 Felix Mottram

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 12:41 PM

I think it is really hard to avoid this. Especially in low wind conditions. When the sail is fully loaded and the kite is stopped sailload drops to nothing (because of the lack of wind), at this point i guess you mean the pilot must walk backwards.
This is the physical interaction you were writing about.
We will give it a try together Posted Imageat Berck Felix !!
<snip>


Hi Marc,

It may not be necessary to walk if you are able swing your arms back behind you at the critical moments <grins>

I'm not sure that we will have light wind conditions at Berck but I look forward to flying with you there.

Felix
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Edited by Felix Mottram, 11 February 2011 - 12:43 PM.


#7 Madquad

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 12:48 PM

It may not be necessary to walk if you are able swing your arms back behind you at the critical moments


Ok...option....so your arms are behind your back...there is no/very low sailpressure at that point....and then ????..........Posted Image...Posted Image

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#8 Felix Mottram

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 12:55 PM

<snip>
For me the road to perfection is the biggest challenge in Rev-flying.
It is an everlasting challenge to improve things....I know i will never reach the point of perfection....that makes this thing so addictive.

( P.s :My English is not always perfect maybe, and sometimes it is hard to describe the things i would like to describe...but ..i try my best)

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For me also, the possibility of refining the flying skills has been a continuing interest.

I have not 'lost interest' in this since the beginning of The Decs involvement with Revolution Kites. Sometimes it is not so easy to carry everyone forward at the same pace in order to achieve new capabilities but this is the key to team and mega team development.

Your English is 'perfect' in the scheme of things!

Felix

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 01:09 PM

Ok...option....so your arms are behind your back...there is no/very low sailpressure at that point....and then ????..........Posted Image...Posted Image


That would be out of sequence and you are right, at that point, it all goes sadly wrong. However, the ability to swing arms backwards and forwards as required is slightly counter intuitive to anyone who has been used to flying with the handles 'in front' of their chest. The increased flexibility can amplify the movement on the ground in building or reducing pressure on the sail. Throwing arms forward to stop the kite in higher wind speed is a feature in two line flying which I think can be usefully adapted to Rev Flying as well. Avoiding 'wrist' movements may be key to this at both extremes!

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:41 PM

Ok...option....so your arms are behind your back...there is no/very low sailpressure at that point....and then ????..........Posted Image...Posted Image

RUN AWAY, backwareds, quick as you can. :kid_devlish:

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 07:42 AM

Ok...option....so your arms are behind your back...there is no/very low sailpressure at that point....and then ????..........Posted Image...Posted Image


Take a big step backwards and fall on your ass. Or is that just me?
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:38 AM

nice video man..now that i got a new comp its great to be back here once again
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 11:02 AM

Once again it's a great video Marc, very nice flying.
And about your English, it's better than mine, that's for sure.

Remco

Edited by Remmie, 13 February 2011 - 12:51 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2011 - 12:50 PM

eh.... it has to be sure , right?
That's what I mean , your english is better than mine Posted Image Posted Image .

Edited by Remmie, 12 February 2011 - 12:56 PM.


#15 Felix Mottram

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 07:12 AM

Ok...option....so your arms are behind your back...there is no/very low sailpressure at that point....and then ????..........Posted Image...Posted Image


Hi Marc,

If you have pulled your handles to your chest you have the equivalent problem with probably less than half the distance travelled and so a considerable loss of potential sail inflation...

We had a great fly today on Blackheath using the Xtra Vents again!

Felix

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 10:11 AM

Very nice Marc ;)

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:03 AM

Very nice Marc ;)


Marc,

Polo flies the stops! I flew one of his kites at Berck last year and it had the advantage, as I recall, of being a light weight construction. The flier has to input the control whatever the weight...

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 02:27 PM

...Posted Image......YES....Polo.....Who else ????

I think he is one of the best rev-pilots ever Posted ImagePosted Image

I love his style..Posted Image

I am going to focus on the visible adjustments........if i can make any improvements i would love to go for it !!!


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#19 Felix Mottram

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:14 AM

...Posted Image......YES....Polo.....Who else ????

I think he is one of the best rev-pilots ever Posted ImagePosted Image

I love his style..Posted Image

I am going to focus on the visible adjustments........if i can make any improvements i would love to go for it !!!


Polo is a great flier! I think that it will be quite difficult to fly that style in team <grins>

Felix




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