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#301 Felix Mottram

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:27 PM

What I meant was the descriptor text right of each figure such as figure CB.


Oops, just lost a draft posting. You have included Zig Zags in horizontal lines which is OK by me for the time being.

I just extrapolated from what you had drawn back to the 16 grid and drew the attached image which requires a small shuffle to achieve the parallel lines.

I have not followed this through yet but I was aware that the parallel diagonal separation had some potential <grins>

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 01:41 PM

Oops, just lost a draft posting. You have included Zig Zags in horizontal lines which is OK by me for the time being.

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I am open to any ideas!
I was not sure where to place it myself.
Would you like to place under some other basic category or even give it it's own basic category or a variation of that?

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 01:45 PM

I am open to any ideas!
I was not sure where to place it myself.
Would you like to place under some other basic category or even give it it's own basic category or a variation of that?


John,

Like I said, let's leave it there for the time being.

It may turn out to be a 'half step' which will be more fully defined further down the line...

Felix

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 10:29 PM

I added in the first of the pinwheels under "I - Pinwheels"

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#305 Felix Mottram

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 12:42 PM

I added in the first of the pinwheels under "I - Pinwheels"


Great! Thanks John...

I just realised that it may be possible to turn around from the final point of the last drawing I posted and 'thread back through' to the opposite side which is what, in essence you had suggested in a slightly different orientation.

My view is that, once some basics are defined, other, more radical possibilities will become apparent... <grins>

Let's hope that other 'potential' grid fliers will feel able to focus their attention and come up with further ideas.

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 02:47 PM

Be on the lookout for maneuvers that are "undo"s of other maneuvers (or nearly so and could be modified). Nothing is so impressive as an obvious mare's nest of line wraps that miraculously clears itself without simply backing out of it.
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 05:06 PM

Be on the lookout for maneuvers that are "undo"s of other maneuvers (or nearly so and could be modified). Nothing is so impressive as an obvious mare's nest of line wraps that miraculously clears itself without simply backing out of it.


That is exactly my thinking...

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 10:34 PM

Today I added in color and position numbers for all the present categories. This is subject to change, in particular when it prove to be not reasonably feasible.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 04:17 AM

Today I added in color and position numbers for all the present categories. This is subject to change, in particular when it prove to be not reasonably feasible.


I just had a quick look and will have to take a more studied look at the weekend. The way that the groups are set up is critical <grins>

It occurs to me that we may need to have alternate configurations in some situations.

Is there a mathematician in the house?

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 08:47 PM

I have 6 animations now integrated into AB Ball. More will be coming over the next days.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 09:20 PM

I have 6 animations now integrated into AB Ball. More will be coming over the next days.

I also added in AC Big Ball for 2 animations

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 10:47 PM

I also added in AC Big Ball for 2 animations

Two BB animations under B have been added which are a reverse of AB under A.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 09:01 AM

Two BB animations under B have been added which are a reverse of AB under A.

Two CB animations have been added which are a reverse of the similar AB animation in A.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 08:54 PM

Two CB animations have been added which are a reverse of the similar AB animation in A.

Two EA animations have been added which are a reverse of the similar AC animation in A.
The navigating on the Super 16 web site has also been improved with changes of images when the cursor moves over an image.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 10:09 PM

Several NEW animation elements have been added so far today.
BB to BE and BE to BB under both BE and BB
BE to IA and IA to BE under both BE and IA
EA to HH and HH to EA under both EA and HH

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 11:57 PM

Several NEW animation elements have been added so far today.
BB to BE and BE to BB under both BE and BB
BE to IA and IA to BE under both BE and IA
EA to HH and HH to EA under both EA and HH

Final add in for the night:
HH to EB and EB to HH under both EB and HH

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 06:11 AM

Final add in for the night:
HH to EB and EB to HH under both EB and HH


Great work John!

Now here is a small sequence from starting grid to four diamonds paying attention to numbering. I think that this may work and it gets close to the Zig Zag which I think is 'quite exciting' <grins>

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:50 AM

Great work John!

Now here is a small sequence from starting grid to four diamonds paying attention to numbering. I think that this may work and it gets close to the Zig Zag which I think is 'quite exciting' <grins>

Felix

It will work!
I have it all cataloged to be added in.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:58 AM

It will work!
I have it all cataloged to be added in.


I am glad that you are so confident that it will work.

What interested me was that this small sequence afforded access to quite a lot of other moves with the transitions that you have already catalogued.

Felix

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 09:10 AM

It will work!
I have it all cataloged to be added in.


As an aside, one of the issues that I had noted was that the initial grouping was potentially based around the 16 grid and the four kites in 'each corner' of the grid rather than the columns or lines that seemed to be your point of reference in the numbering that you had applied.

Felix




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