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#1 awindofchange

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:26 PM

Ok, Ben talked about these briefly but I am unable to find his post. This is a picture of the new Ultra Race Rods that Revolution has designed. My new Bazzar Eyes came in with these rods and I wanted to show just how strong they are. These new rods have a green tint to them compared to the normal black/gray color on normal rods. The rod is almost the exact same diameter of the normal Race Rods so they are ultra thin and very light weight, but as you can see from the picture, can take an incredible amount of stress and flex without breaking.

Very awesome and space age technology at work from the minds of Revolution! :)

These pictures are also posted in my photo gallery.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:35 PM

Kent,

Your collection of masterpiece kites is incredible! Wow!

Thanks for sharing the photos.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:47 PM

Hey Kent, who's the goofy looking guy you got to pose with the new "Rich Rods"? :kid_smartass:

I've got a set of the green rods too and I like them!

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:56 PM

Ok, Ben talked about these briefly but I am unable to find his post. This is a picture of the new Ultra Race Rods that Revolution has designed. My new Bazzar Eyes came in with these rods and I wanted to show just how strong they are. These new rods have a green tint to them compared to the normal black/gray color on normal rods. The rod is almost the exact same diameter of the normal Race Rods so they are ultra thin and very light weight, but as you can see from the picture, can take an incredible amount of stress and flex without breaking.

Very awesome and space age technology at work from the minds of Revolution! :)

These pictures are also posted in my photo gallery.

I've had a test set for about two months and I must say, I am very impressed.
I have tried breaking them by pounding the ground at various angles, back flips in strong winds and etc. They just won't break.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:23 PM

Adam, Thanks for the comments on the collection. Glad you are enjoying it.

Alden, thats just some kite bum that is always lurking at the store, not the best flyer but loves the Revolutions and has a larger collection of masterpieces than his wife knows about. :)

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 02:48 AM

@Kent.....Haahahahahaa........I think the statement about the quantity of kites you have and your wifes knowledge of such is common in more placess than you know.....my house included.

Kent........Where u gonna be Monday morning? Looks like I'm gonna have a few hours as my call time is 2pm.

@Mr Mitchell............I too have had a set of these rods for some time now and I haven't been able to bust em up yet........but its still early in the R&D (Rich & Destroy) phase!!!!!

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:37 AM

Man, those rods sure look STRONG!! :w00t: Kent, are they now a stock item at your store?? :huh: Looks good!!!:)

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:03 PM

We should be getting more of them in stock from Rev in the next week or so. Let me know if you need a set and I can set one aside for you.

@Quaa, We'll be in the store on Monday but if the weather is nice I may be able to sneak out for a quick fly. :) Give me a call when you get in town and we can hook up....either on the field or at least at the shop.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 04:21 PM

@Quaa, We'll be in the store on Monday but if the weather is nice I may be able to sneak out for a quick fly. Posted Image Give me a call when you get in town and we can hook up....either on the field or at least at the shop.


Cool!!!!!
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 01:35 AM

Interesting Rods, and I remember Ben saying they might not suit everybody.

I wonder Kent, do you think that was at full bend, or do you recon it would go further than that.

Maybe Rich would be good enough to test one to destruction for us. :kid_devlish:

#11 Felix Mottram

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:36 AM

Interesting Rods, and I remember Ben saying they might not suit everybody.

I wonder Kent, do you think that was at full bend, or do you recon it would go further than that.

Maybe Rich would be good enough to test one to destruction for us.


I flew with these rods today, in the full sail initially and later in the full vented.

They felt 'crisp' to me but I will have to try swapping frames 'back to back' at some point.

Testing to destruction has always been a tough call...

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 10:52 AM

Recently when I visited the Revolution factory I asked about the possibility of green rods for the REV I.
To make a long story short, the next time I visited the factory they had a set waiting for me.
My tests are still not completed however I must say I am quite impressed in every area I tested them.
For my test I am using the Sedgwick sail.
My comparison rod was the standard 3 wrap rod as I don't not have the race rods for the REV I.
One distinctive feature I notice was the smoothness in starting a turn. Where the 3 wrap is somewhat jumpy, the green rod is absolutely smooth.
In flight comparison I have not tested the 2 nor 4 wrap rods.
Stiffness order:
- 2 wrap
- green rod
- 3 wrap
- 4 wrap
Weight (without a scale):
- 2 wrap
- green rod
- 3 wrap
- 4 wrap
Robustness (assumption):
- 2 wrap
- 3 wrap
- 4 wrap
- green rod
This will be my all around standard rod for the REV I in the future.
I have not yet compared the ZEN, though I have a set.

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 12:41 PM

[quote name='johnnmitchell' date='20 March 2011 - 02:52 PM' timestamp='1300647138' post='78720']
Recently when I visited the Revolution factory I asked about the possibility of green rods for the REV I.
To make a long story short, the next time I visited the factory they had a set waiting for me.


Oooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 02:33 PM

[quote name='quaa714' date='20 March 2011 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1300653714' post='78721']
[quote name='johnnmitchell' date='20 March 2011 - 02:52 PM' timestamp='1300647138' post='78720']
Recently when I visited the Revolution factory I asked about the possibility of green rods for the REV I.
To make a long story short, the next time I visited the factory they had a set waiting for me.


Oooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I guess you could call them the Long Rich Rods!

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:49 AM

ame='quaa714' date='20 March 2011 - 01:41 PM' timestamp='1300653714' post='78721']

I guess you could call them the Long Rich Rods!


John,

The green race rods for the 1.5 do seem to 'load smoothly' compared to the standard race rods.

I will look forward to trying the greens in the Rev 1 and the Zen!

Felix

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 05:07 PM

John,

The green race rods for the 1.5 do seem to 'load smoothly' compared to the standard race rods.

I will look forward to trying the greens in the Rev 1 and the Zen!

Felix

For the 1.5 I tend to prefer the green over any of the other rods due to smoothness and robustness.
I think what I need to do is to make a comparison between the green, race, zen and the standard 3 wrap rods on the REV I and and ZEN.
Even better would be to have 4 identical REV I sails and 4 ZEN sails to use in the comparison, however that many sails is not within my means.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:38 AM

John and Felix, interesting--everything else I've read about the green rods seems to be about how unbreakable they are, not about their flight performance. You actually prefer the feel? Are they maybe useful for slightly higher winds, when you would otherwise have to switch from black race to 3 wraps?

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 11:12 AM

John and Felix, interesting--everything else I've read about the green rods seems to be about how unbreakable they are, not about their flight performance. You actually prefer the feel? Are they maybe useful for slightly higher winds, when you would otherwise have to switch from black race to 3 wraps?


I thought that the black race rods were supposed to be as strong as 3 wrap but I am loath to test anything to destruction. The green race rods have appeared to me to be 'stiffer' than the black race rods but I have not heard if the 'testing by applying weights' has confirmed this. I only have visual observation of kites in flight to go by.

I feel more confident with LE rods that do not flex 'too far' which is a poor explanation but somehow sums up the flying experience. I suspect that if the kite has 'sufficient' reverse on the line settings the tendency for the LE to flex may be reduced as well! <grins>

Felix

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 12:35 PM

I thought that the black race rods were supposed to be as strong as 3 wrap but I am loath to test anything to destruction. The green race rods have appeared to me to be 'stiffer' than the black race rods but I have not heard if the 'testing by applying weights' has confirmed this. I only have visual observation of kites in flight to go by.

I feel more confident with LE rods that do not flex 'too far' which is a poor explanation but somehow sums up the flying experience. I suspect that if the kite has 'sufficient' reverse on the line settings the tendency for the LE to flex may be reduced as well! <grins>

Felix



I have felt that the rods feel great in light winds, but once the sail loads up, the rods keep bending farther as the pressure increases. It also doesn't seem to snap back into place quite like the regular race rods, and give the kite a bit more of a soft or bouncy feeling. As is, I prefer 3-wrap or 4-wrap to the green race rods.


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Posted 31 March 2011 - 12:49 PM

I have felt that the rods feel great in light winds, but once the sail loads up, the rods keep bending farther as the pressure increases. It also doesn't seem to snap back into place quite like the regular race rods, and give the kite a bit more of a soft or bouncy feeling. As is, I prefer 3-wrap or 4-wrap to the green race rods.



Watty - Have you tried them (green rods) in your vented sail, too?? Same conclusions?? Posted Image

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