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#41 Lavarr

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 05:27 AM

Thanks guys! I get it finally!

#42 Beaufort

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 12:46 AM

This is one of my favorite videos; even have it loaded in my iPod.
I chuckle everytime I watch it and see those two with their backs turned, never once even glancing over towards the kite.


Does anyone know if it is on youtube somewhere?

I have searched a lot, but found nothing... Posted Image

Thanks!

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:19 AM

this one?


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Posted 30 April 2011 - 11:23 PM

this one?

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded



Thanks, but no. I was thinking of:

"...It's the Revolution kites Light wind Technique DVD by Joe Hedzicki (don't know if this is how you spell his last name), dated 1/2000 and it covers bridle change, keep kite moving, surface area, the rev float, drop turns, rowing motion, pumping, light lines and sensitivity. "

Anyone?

;-)

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 06:08 AM

There is also the excellent JB light wind tutorial on learnkites.com in HD. You will need to subscribe to get it.

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 07:04 AM

I've made a light wind video too which you can check
Wind was about 4 Mph.



Used B-Pro with RaceRods on 100 ft lines.


Notice that the right equipment is half of the light wind way of flying...the other half is practice and practice !!!

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#47 Kitelife

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 05:30 PM

Sorry to duplicate, I just posted this info on another semi-related topic...

Have you seen the light wind tutorial I did?

http://kitelife.com/...ng-hd-1280x720/

Also, I recommend looking at the Sail Loading technique as well...

http://kitelife.com/...ng-hd-1280x720/

They're accessible to Kitelife subscribers ( http://www.kitelife.com/subscribe.php ) only, but if you're interested, they are there. :)


The full collection of tutorials is listed at http://www.learnkites.com

16 outdoor Rev tutorials, 9 indoor Rev, 1 dual line, 26 tutorials in all - some of them are on YouTube.

Thanks, but no. I was thinking of:

"...It's the Revolution kites Light wind Technique DVD by Joe Hedzicki (don't know if this is how you spell his last name), dated 1/2000 and it covers bridle change, keep kite moving, surface area, the rev float, drop turns, rowing motion, pumping, light lines and sensitivity. "

Anyone?

;-)

Any info from 2000 is pretty dated... Revolution flying, or more so the collective knowledge, took a real leap starting in 2006, full stride by 2008.

Even the best pilots have experienced somewhat of a "revolution" in their own flying over the past few years. ;)

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 11:05 AM

Sorry to duplicate, I just posted this info on another semi-related topic...



The full collection of tutorials is listed at http://www.learnkites.com

16 outdoor Rev tutorials, 9 indoor Rev, 1 dual line, 26 tutorials in all - some of them are on YouTube.


Any info from 2000 is pretty dated... Revolution flying, or more so the collective knowledge, took a real leap starting in 2006, full stride by 2008.

Even the best pilots have experienced somewhat of a "revolution" in their own flying over the past few years. ;)


Thanks, I enjoy your video's very much (subscriber), and have paid special attention to sail loading and light wind flying. It just seems that some of the posters praise this particular light wind movie even though it is old..

And personally I figured out the float from other videos (Scott Weiders Zen video eg.) and some posts form this helpful site. So I am just curious to see if I can find even more tips and hints on light wind tecnique ;-)

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 01:23 PM

Hey Guys,

   Does anyone know where I might get a copy of the Revolution kites Light wind Technique DVD?? You can email me if anyone has any info on this. Thanks, Mark      lmoaks@yahoo.com



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:31 AM

I will look at home and see if I can find a copy (hidden in a box, tucked deeply into a corner that has been unseen for many moons!)



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:34 AM

I can USPS the DvD to you Mark, but it's not going to be worthy of your time or the expense to return it back to me after a couple of viewings.

 

Do you really want to watch driving lessons with a steam power automobile?, Even lessons provided from the inventor himself?

 

I watched the video again this morning and it's a long ways from where we are now with equipment and techniques.  There are some basic things outlined, beyond how to install a "light wind kit" that was available from Rev back around 2000 to fit a Rev 1.  

 

Basics of lift, field recovery and walking backwards, rowing & the float for pilot techniques, long throw handles, lighter weight line sets, replacement frames, all spectra bridle & replacement end-caps for equipment modifications.

 

Background looks like ideal flying conditions to me, a steady breeze, off the water at around 4 mph.  Those are not my local low-wind conditions, I can assure you

 

Joe has metal clips on the bridle points and handle attachment rings,....  with common length leaders (although if you go back far enough in Rev history the top lines were supposed to be longer)

 

he looks younger too!



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:10 AM

DVDs are nice, but not much takes the place of just going out and making it happen! Part of the learning process is figuring out what works (for you) in any wind range! The variety of frames, different sails, weight lines, size of handles, all play into the equation! In the end it's all about what works for YOU! Here on the Rev forum, Kitelife forum, or GWTW forum, you get ideas, but then you have to translate that into info that works for you! Only "time on lines" can do that! Even watching the DVD can only provide you with so much, the rest is up to you!ani_idea.gif


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 04:49 PM

Thanks for the offer REVflyer. I called Revolution and Lolly is sending me a copy. I know that going out and doing is the best training... but I thought that the DVD might give me a few hints to keep in mind and maybe cut down the learning curve a little. I am a first year Rev flyer so any help I can get is great. I fly inland in the worst winds so I'm thinking that on those days when there is little to no winds I might be able to fly. (we'll see). Thanks for the input guys, Mark



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 06:58 PM

I found that short lines help in light winds.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:29 PM

Hi, kiteflyer -- and welcome to the dark side.

 

You will have great difficulty flying in zero and very light wind conditions until you learn how to "load the sail", "regain lost ground" and "fly with the kite" (as opposed to the kite flying you or you flying the kite). With only a year under your belt, you are attempting advanced methods. Kudos to you for trying, but don't let the high level of difficulty that you are trying to achieve frustrate you. You might just not have enough time on the lines to make it happen. It will come to you eventually, like a light turning on!

 

Remember to breathe and keep smiling. Fun is what you need to achieve more than anything else, otherwise it becomes work. Don't let that happen.

 

Videos help, but are no substitute for experience. Just get out as often as possible and it will happen by itself.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:58 PM

I can give you one exercise to practice recovering your field - take 1 stake and mark your starting point. Go upwind about 30-40' and put in another stake. Try to stay within the stakes, not just keep backing up! Get to the back stake, take the kite to the top, invert, and walk forward as much as you can. If you get back to the first stake - good! If not, take the kite up and do it again! You should, after a bit, find it very easy to stay within the stakes! 1 goal made!! Enjoy the ride!!


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 02:31 AM

on nice grassy field, you can see how far the kite will glide away from you (from the above referenced "inverted position, at the top of the wind window").

 

Just release the handles entirely with them centered and equa-distant in front of you.  The kite will glide back down-wind all by itself and land softly.  You just need to be holding the handles to control it as the next step!  It's a glide, how steep is how fast you'll reach the ground.

 

Go to short lines lengths, like an old set of lines cut in half.  Things happen faster and the wind window is greatly reduced, but you don't have far to go to take-out all of the slack either.

 

Take the kite and try to pitch it away from you (3D-throwing) using your opposite hand to balance it in the middle, pushing the kite like a javelin with your index finger.  Don't worry about affixing the lines just yet, try to get the "throw" down pat first.  The kite should rotate around when thrown towards the opposite wind window corner to leading edge inverted (I'm left handed, I throw towards the right).  Both handles are in one hand and your little pinky finger is placed in between (to prevent handle or leader entanglement).  The kite has to arc around, not be throw in a straight line, kinda upwards, as well as forward.  See you-tube at about 1:08 http://www.youtube.c...?v=AQ95sr-axEo, as well as the start.

 

You can see a "handle release" at the end of this one    ~ Bigger wind, 120's,... it probably flew 350 feet forward, ... don't hit anybody!



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:11 AM

Thanks guys,

   I really do appreciate your input. I'm sure it will help me to learn the Rev better. I guess it's all about practice... practice...practice. 
               Thanks again, Mark



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:15 AM

There's no substitute for "time on lines"!! Only way to really understand the kite and how it reacts to your inputs is to fly it as often as possible!! Short lines help - you can see how it's reacting to you!! I suggest 30'-50' lines for this, not so short you have no window side to side, but close enough to see how it works!! Plus it's only a short walk if you have to do the "walk of shame" to reset it!! cat_lol.gif


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 10:56 AM

The "light wind video" is pretty dated (maybe early 90s), but it was produced by Dave Shenkman from The Kite Connection... He may have some copies still around. ;)

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