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#1 David M

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 08:33 PM

I took my SLE for it 1st fly and was shocked to find the lines ALL tangled and up to 6inch difference in length(I should have checked)but these were straight from the manufacture and I thought they would be ok.Well I guess I've got a lot of adjusting to do. I'll also make some longer leaders for the handles as they are just the standrad length with 1 knot.But despite all of this I had fun and I'm NOT giving up.Oh did I mention the wind was 60kph verrrrry interesting.
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Posted 13 July 2010 - 09:25 PM

The questions are:
- Where the lines original from Revolution or some provided by the kite dealer?
- Where the lines measured before or after you flew in 60Kph winds. A bit too strong for a REV SLE standard however possible.

The lines being all tangled could be an illusion. When you roll out the lines, shake them out first as they might appear tangled but really not tangled. A new set of lines that have never been used would not normally be tangled. Now if by chance the lines had been used, for what ever reason by someone else, they could have been tangled.

If I recall correctly, those Revs shipped by Revolution with lines these days all have Laser Pro lines and a black winder which I think has LaserPro on it. Seems to me they are sealed a their own plastic bag.

Now the line difference of 6 inches tends to make believe they might not be from Revolution. However mistakes do happen.

As for adjusting the sleeving on the lines, by all means as JB advises in his tutorial.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 10:01 PM

There is also a possability that if you are not used to handling multiple lines (obviously I do not know how experienced you are) you could have put some tangles in the lines as you unwound them.

I have bought most of my lines from T at Thekiteshoppe and have never had any problem with them. I have made some myself and after the first flight have re-adjusted them. I have also bought some from other shops.

I ask the person at the shop "did you make these lines or did you buy them in" after that I check B4 I fly, if they are not adjusted correctly and they are bought in lines I will let the shop know the lengths were bad. If the shop made them and they were WAY out (only found this once) I just never use the shop again.

Best of luck with your adjustments, it is a good thing to learn. Let us know how you get on.

Oh and flying a full sail in 60k winds. You must be a REAL Superhero (avatar) :kid_devlish:

Edited by Baloo, 13 July 2010 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2010 - 10:30 PM

There is also a possability that if you are not used to handling multiple lines (obviously I do not know how experienced you are) you could have put some tangles in the lines as you unwound them.

I have bought most of my lines from T at Thekiteshoppe and have never had any problem with them. I have made some myself and after the first flight have re-adjusted them. I have also bought some from other shops.

I ask the person at the shop "did you make these lines or did you buy them in" after that I check B4 I fly, if they are not adjusted correctly and they are bought in lines I will let the shop know the lengths were bad. If the shop made them and they were WAY out (only found this once) I just never use the shop again.

Best of luck with your adjustments, it is a good thing to learn. Let us know how you get on.

Oh and flying a full sail in 60k winds. You must be a REAL Superhero (avatar) Posted Image


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Posted 13 July 2010 - 10:40 PM

The questions are:
- Where the lines original from Revolution or some provided by the kite dealer?
- Where the lines measured before or after you flew in 60Kph winds. A bit too strong for a REV SLE standard however possible.

The lines being all tangled could be an illusion. When you roll out the lines, shake them out first as they might appear tangled but really not tangled. A new set of lines that have never been used would not normally be tangled. Now if by chance the lines had been used, for what ever reason by someone else, they could have been tangled.

If I recall correctly, those Revs shipped by Revolution with lines these days all have Laser Pro lines and a black winder which I think has LaserPro on it. Seems to me they are sealed a their own plastic bag.

Now the line difference of 6 inches tends to make believe they might not be from Revolution. However mistakes do happen.

As for adjusting the sleeving on the lines, by all means as JB advises in his tutorial.


It's a ridgey didge Rev,I probably tangled them.They were figure 8 wound if that makes a difference.They do have the LaserPro on a black winder. And as we say here s**t happens. Anyway,the exercise of equalizing them will do me good.I'll post how I went.
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Posted 13 July 2010 - 10:54 PM

I have seen geniuses and engineers that have terrible times unwinding quad lines trying to use their whatever logic.
Figure 8 winding is what I learned and I still use without any hitches. I see zero reason for me to change.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 05:12 AM

... the exercise of equalizing them will do me good ...


Please be careful to keep your top lines together and your bottom lines together when you equalize ... they should be clearly marked. Now that you've flown in heavy winds, the top lines have seen larger forces than the bottom lines. The result of the extra force on the top lines is that they have been stretched (creep) more than the bottom lines. When you next use the lines in heavy winds, put the bottom lines on top to help equalize the creep ... you'll probably have to re-equalize after that flight.

Cheers,
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:25 AM




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Posted 15 July 2010 - 10:26 PM

I have seen geniuses and engineers that have terrible times unwinding quad lines trying to use their whatever logic.
Figure 8 winding is what I learned and I still use without any hitches. I see zero reason for me to change.


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Posted 15 July 2010 - 10:34 PM

Please be careful to keep your top lines together and your bottom lines together when you equalize ... they should be clearly marked. Now that you've flown in heavy winds, the top lines have seen larger forces than the bottom lines. The result of the extra force on the top lines is that they have been stretched (creep) more than the bottom lines. When you next use the lines in heavy winds, put the bottom lines on top to help equalize the creep ... you'll probably have to re-equalize after that flight.

Cheers,
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Thanks Tom I'll keep that in mind but I don't think I'll be flying those kind of winds again.I was just anxious to try my new RevPosted Image
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 02:19 PM

Thanks Tom I'll keep that in mind but I don't think I'll be flying those kind of winds again.


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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:54 PM

Yes you will


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Posted 18 July 2010 - 05:07 PM

It's a ridgey didge Rev,I probably tangled them.They were figure 8 wound if that makes a difference.They do have the LaserPro on a black winder. And as we say here s**t happens. Anyway,the exercise of equalizing them will do me good.I'll post how I went.


Since then I've laid out my lines in the backyard and did find that in fact my top L-R lines were equal as were my bottom L-R onesPosted Image
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