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#61 AldenMiler

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 07:20 PM

Well, an AKA membership for me would never pay for itself since I do not buy that much stuff, but I would prefer having insurance at this event so may need to look at doing this while I am there. Is there different levels of membership? I have no use for the magazine and hate paying for paper. Is there a version that doesn't come with the mag?

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Bart, good question. I know they are posting PDF versions of the magazine online.

I think it's a valid question for the AKA folks because I do know it costs a pretty penny for the magazine.
Maybe they still have those "flight insurance" pedestals at the airport, that ought to be enough... :kid_devlish:

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 08:08 AM

Bart, good question. I know they are posting PDF versions of the magazine online.

I think it's a valid question for the AKA folks because I do know it costs a pretty penny for the magazine.
Maybe they still have those "flight insurance" pedestals at the airport, that ought to be enough... :kid_devlish:

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I wonder if STACK will recognise the WSIKF event?

Maybe there are reciprocal arrangements in which case some of us will be covered. I remember joining the AKA in order to attend the event in Lubbock some time back. <grins>

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:47 AM

I wonder if STACK will recognise the WSIKF event?

Maybe there are reciprocal arrangements in which case some of us will be covered. I remember joining the AKA in order to attend the event in Lubbock some time back. <grins>

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Simple answer, STACK does not cover Insurance at USA events.

Please could someone tell me what the damage would be for international applicants to the AKA, slow mail version <grins>

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:51 AM

For international applications, join the AKA to support, get travel insurance to cover your body. ;)

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:14 AM

For international applications, join the AKA to support, get travel insurance to cover your body. ;)


Sorry JB, I think that there is a syntax problem in what you said... support?

We will have travel insurance <grins>

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:54 AM

Just saying, AKA membership is not requisite to be in the mega fly... Join if you believe in the ideals (regardless of politics), I know I do, been a member since 1990.

Mostly, for international participants, I wouldn't look to the AKA to solve insurance concerns.

Non-AKA members will sign a waiver, making them exempt from AKA coverage as I understand it.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:24 PM

Just saying, AKA membership is not requisite to be in the mega fly... Join if you believe in the ideals (regardless of politics), I know I do, been a member since 1990.

Mostly, for international participants, I wouldn't look to the AKA to solve insurance concerns.

Non-AKA members will sign a waiver, making them exempt from AKA coverage as I understand it.


Travel insurance should be dealt with elsewhere.

Presumably non AKA members sign a waiver confirming that they are NOT covered by AKA insurance and subject to any kiting related liabilities personally!

I would only expect AKA to cover kiting liabilities.

Can anyone enlighten us further?

Thanks

Felix

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 01:15 PM

Yes, this is getting confusing.

I have travel insurance for out of Canada. This is for medical should the need arise.

I do not have "kite liability" insurance if my kite bumps someone on the beach and they decide to sue my ass.

It seems pointless to sign a waiver with AKA to say I am not covered. Of course I am not covered. Waivers of this nature are about as legally binding as chewing gum is strong enough hold your house together - don't rely on it standing up.

So how do we get "kite liability"? Buy an AKA membership? Generally I wouldn't concern myself about it in Canada. It is a concern in the U.S.A.. I'd like to get something set up, ideally, before hand, but if not then when I get there.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 01:19 PM

I've got a simple answer, albeit somewhat limiting...

Fly inside the Rev field, and assist (politely) with keeping the general public out of it unless escorted.

Ain't met a Rev flier yet who'd sue you for clobbering them by mistake.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 01:20 PM

Yes, this is getting confusing.

I have travel insurance for out of Canada. This is for medical should the need arise.

I do not have "kite liability" insurance if my kite bumps someone on the beach and they decide to sue my ass.

It seems pointless to sign a waiver with AKA to say I am not covered. Of course I am not covered. Waivers of this nature are about as legally binding as chewing gum is strong enough hold your house together - don't rely on it standing up.

So how do we get "kite liability"? Buy an AKA membership? Generally I wouldn't concern myself about it in Canada. It is a concern in the U.S.A.. I'd like to get something set up, ideally, before hand, but if not then when I get there.

Bart


Hi Bart,

I hope that someone will be able to advise us soon. My interpretation is similar to yours.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 08:21 PM

I've got a simple answer, albeit somewhat limiting...

Fly inside the Rev field, and assist (politely) with keeping the general public out of it unless escorted.

Ain't met a Rev flier yet who'd sue you for clobbering them by mistake.


Yep, I agree wholeheartedly!! Might get a tangle or something, but never heard a Rev flyer talk about suing someone!! Probably help you instead of suing you!!

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 08:55 PM

It's not really the Rev fliers that concern me as much as everyone else who may happen along at the wrong time.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:03 PM

It's not really the Rev fliers that concern me as much as everyone else who may happen along at the wrong time.

Bart


Hi Bart,

If you want, I can sign you up for AKA on the spot. Or Ben can. Or Amy (mousie) can. That way you can decide when you get there if you want to join AKA :) The more the merrier!!

Theresa

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:02 AM

So the AKA membership DOES provide liability for members outside of the USA?

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:05 AM

One way to find out, call 'em: (509) 529-9171

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:34 AM

So the AKA membership DOES provide liability for members outside of the USA?

Bart

Hi Bart,

Yes, at sanctioned events in the USA and CANADA.

This link may answer some of your questions:

http://www.aka.kite.org/mbrship.shtml

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:39 AM

Thanks. I guess this is the easiest route to take although I do wish they had a price point that did not include the magazine which is probably the biggest portion of the expense and something I would just rather not have.

Bart

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:58 AM

Hi Bart,

Yes, at sanctioned events in the USA and CANADA.

This link may answer some of your questions:

http://www.aka.kite.org/mbrship.shtml


Hi Theresa,

Thanks for your input. It seems that outsiders will have to sign a disclaimer saying that they are not covered by the AKA insurance at the event. As a member of STACK I find that their insurance cover does not extend to the USA. The AKA cover will not extend outside the USA/Canada.

So, it seems that, to obtain equivalent cover outsiders will have to pay a higher price to get the same cover as USA fliers because of 'nominal postal charges' for something that is not of particular relevance to the practical issue of 'on site' insurance.

Please do not take this the 'wrong way'. I would like to see this resolved sensibly <grins>

Could we be accommodated as 'guests' of the AKA sanctioned event?

Felix

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 02:01 PM

Such inquires would be best made to WSIKF organizers ( jane [at] kitefestival [dot] com ) or the AKA directly.

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 07:51 AM

It's not really the Rev fliers that concern me as much as everyone else who may happen along at the wrong time.

Bart

Hi Bart, I'll give you a target to start, RICH Comras loves wearing REV's give him a go, he'll be glad to service your target practice. LOL

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