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Best Answer REVflyer, 10 March 2011 - 03:51 AM

The B-Series Pro standard (sail built as an SUL) is the finest product REV has ever had their name on, at least in my limited experience.
It is worth the price, worth the waiting time after ordering and the practice hours (if you haven't got 'em already) necessary to appreciate Bazzer's superior craftsmanship!

A couple of sets of frames, line set lengths and this kite = any inland flier having a decade's worth of fun in hand, all for a few hundred bucks.

Do you need this "ride"?, heck no! Will you enjoy it? ABSOLUTELY

The difference between the B-Series & the Pro?
It is the difference between a manufacturing line's steel knife and a hand-forged masterpiece Damascus steel blade. Both cut just fine, but one makes itself a part of your Chi! Go to the full post


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#1 bartman

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 11:00 AM

I believed back when I ordered my pro series, and still believe now, that a beginner or flyer with just average skills would not see a lot of difference between the two. Flying my pro last year did not feel any different to me than flying my regular "B" kites. I was not afforded a sudden increase in skill by switching to a Pro and that was okay since it would be a kite to grow into for me and even the best tools in the world cannot make a bad carpenter good. In short, I wasn't expecting a pro kite to make me any better at flying.

Now, almost a year later and and more hours of flying under my belt (the last six weeks of endless snow, rain and hurricane winds not withstanding) I find my kite of choice is the pro.

I can't make a perfect apples to apples comparison because my pro is a mid vent and the B-Series are a std sail and a full vent but, damn, everything works a lot better with the pro now that I have gained more skills. My spins are more stationary and centred, my inverted hovers more level, inverted slides cleaner, reversing has better controlled (and I'll take any control I can get in reverse as it is a struggle), in general far less wobble than I manage with the other two even using the full vent which has slipped to second choice.

If there is any way to fly the pro even a bit out of it's recommended range, that is the kite I want to fly.

I'm happy that I've started to feel the differences and notice the differences. It tells me that even though I am not getting hundreds of hours of practice a year I am still making some progress and moving forwards. It also has helped me to justify the extra money I spent on a pro over getting a regular mid-vent "B".

Upwards and onwards!

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 11:49 AM

I believed back when I ordered my pro series, and still believe now, that a beginner or flyer with just average skills would not see a lot of difference between the two.
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Bart


There was a story about a car mechanic who took out a customers Ferrari for a test drive recently in London UK. He wrecked it!

Happily the differences in performance in Rev Kites are not that extreme.

However, I would agree that, in effect, only an experienced flier would be able to take full advantage of the incremental differences in design. Even then, they may be able to fly incorrectly configured kites without readily being able to identify precise issues.

Bart, I am sure that there will be an opportunity for you and others to try the JMH full vented variant at WSIKF.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 02:17 PM

Bart, you are SO on the money with this post!!!

I was out with my Pro Midvent over the weekend and it just handles soooo much better than any of my other Revs for the very reasons you've already pointed out. I could feel even more of a difference when I had to switch to a full sail (which is not pro). My pro is so quiet in the air. When I had it in the Wildwood winds it was as smooooth as silk.

You are right in that it is ultimately one's piloting skills that makes the difference, but when you have the right tools, it also makes one's flying experience all the better!

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 01:08 PM

i too have found the pro to be a very nice kite.. i still like fly my b series as well.. is their a differnce? yes ..the pro is a better kite espically for team flying.. i also found a little more tougher then the regular revs..i fly my pros alot and enjoy them very much.. bazzer does nice work .. keep it up buddy!!!!
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 12:36 PM

After reading your posts I can't wait for my new Pro's to arrive ( STD and Mid Vent) and compare them to my std B series. Trouble is I've still got a few weeks to wait!!Posted Image

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 11:05 AM

Hello all,

Since in France it is very difficult to find a Barresi PRO model (and of course when you find it you find also these asked 490 euros - 688 dollars ! - a bit too much expensive)
it could be very good to have somewhere a clear explanation of what is different between the both Barresi series, PRO and Regular.

Do you know where I could find that ?

Thanks a lot helping a poor Revolution EXP user (ie: a 4 lines beginner) to understand a bit all these Rev models and to chose the one which will be bought !

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 05:30 AM

I know it's been a while since this thread was posted but my two cents:

My B Series is so much smoother than my Rev 1s. The B Series feels much more precise than my Rev 1. I can imagine that the Pro is even better! Kudos to Rev for being able to improve on an already great kite!


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Posted 01 March 2011 - 01:14 PM

I know it's been a while since this thread was posted but my two cents:

My B Series is so much smoother than my Rev 1s. The B Series feels much more precise than my Rev 1. I can imagine that the Pro is even better! Kudos to Rev for being able to improve on an already great kite!



I wouldn't say more precise, I'd say more nimble!! The 1.5 is more tolerant of input from the flier, the Rev1 is a little touchy given the same commands!! The Rev 1 is more stately, flies slower, but has all the precision you could ask for from a kite!!! The 1.5 is snappy, quick, and responsive!! I have both, a Rev1 and 2 - 1.5's, a SUL and FV, very different animals!!! Recently used my Rev1 and found myself doing the dreaded "overcontrol" with the kite!! Showed me a different side of things, more relaxed, just a different style of flying altogether!!! Things that I got away with on the 1.5s didn't work on the Rev1!! Every piece of equipment has it's own unique style, we have to adapt to their strengths and weaknesses!!! All IMHO!!!

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 11:27 PM

+1 on the Rev 1.
I find it`s a different kind of "precision" if one is to compare a 1 and a 1.5B....they both can be very precise.....however the size, pull, and relative speed/or lack thereof of the 2 kites makes a whole lot of difference. Wind speed is the determining factor.
In real light wind I generally find a Sedgwick 1 w/2wraps to be more precise and nimble in that I can use it`s size and weight difference to it`s advantage (plus the springyness of the frame) when compared to a 1.5B w/2wraps or a 1.5 sul w/2wraps. As the wind picks up the nimbleness goes to the 1.5`s camp but not necessarily the precision. There does come a time where the 1.5B will be more precise than a 1 but when that wind speed is achieved a 1 is no longer fun to fly and goes into the bag.
However I definitely do find (in any sail/frame combo) my 1.5B`s more precise than my 1.5`s (except a 1.5sul in certain conditions).
I do find the 1.5B`s to be the smoothest kite(s) to fly....but I`m sure that will change when I get a Zen....huh just came full circle.......
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 03:33 AM

i hopePosted Image , i knowPosted Image you , are right about REV PRO's ,
i have invested my birthday money ( from wife and daughters , money i'll probably never see ) and my ASDA (walmart) bonus ( we had a good trading year, until it came to paying a bonus )
any way, invested in a REV PRO a standard, to be built as a SUL, like Pete i've got to wait, but i'm sure/know it will be worth it, as my Bazzer made ZEN is a beautiful kite both to fly and admire

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 10:42 PM

i hopePosted Image , i knowPosted Image you , are right about REV PRO's ,
i have invested my birthday money ( from wife and daughters , money i'll probably never see ) and my ASDA (walmart) bonus ( we had a good trading year, until it came to paying a bonus )
any way, invested in a REV PRO a standard, to be built as a SUL, like Pete i've got to wait, but i'm sure/know it will be worth it, as my Bazzer made ZEN is a beautiful kite both to fly and admire

fungus Posted Image


Worth every penny mate.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 04:16 AM

getting excited now, can't wait
i actually flew last wed, dual line Posted Image , but at least i've made a start to the year

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:43 AM

Ya know...there is a B-Series Dually out there now...(at least in a month or so). It's called the Kymiera (sp?). So duallies aren't all bad.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 03:56 PM

It's not a B-"Series dualie", Kymera is a different animal, different company (Into The Wind), but from the same dude. :)

Heard he' a punk, but his kites are alright. <grin>
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Posted 05 March 2011 - 12:12 AM

It's not a B-"Series dualie", Kymera is a different animal, different company (Into The Wind), but from the same dude. :)

Heard he' a punk, but his kites are alright. <grin>


Hello Punky dude,

This let me say to you again congratulations for these wonderful and successful kite designing jobs !

And about the punk attitude : at least you have the good wife to let us forget your own hair :P

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 02:07 PM

Thank you Guy. :)

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 12:28 AM

It's not a B-"Series dualie", Kymera is a different animal, different company (Into The Wind), but from the same dude. :)

Heard he' a punk, but his kites are alright. <grin>


JB,

Are you bringing a Kymera to the Rev Clinic this month for try-its? Yeah, that might unfocus us a little bit, but to quote the infamous Gomer Pyle "GOLLY!". Pretty kite, and some of us still commute from the dark side to the "other side" on occasion.
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Posted 10 March 2011 - 03:51 AM   Best Answer

The B-Series Pro standard (sail built as an SUL) is the finest product REV has ever had their name on, at least in my limited experience.
It is worth the price, worth the waiting time after ordering and the practice hours (if you haven't got 'em already) necessary to appreciate Bazzer's superior craftsmanship!

A couple of sets of frames, line set lengths and this kite = any inland flier having a decade's worth of fun in hand, all for a few hundred bucks.

Do you need this "ride"?, heck no! Will you enjoy it? ABSOLUTELY

The difference between the B-Series & the Pro?
It is the difference between a manufacturing line's steel knife and a hand-forged masterpiece Damascus steel blade. Both cut just fine, but one makes itself a part of your Chi!

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 06:29 AM

Thank you very much for your answer(s) and your time(s) !

Sure REVflyer I understand what you say, and sure also I have not yet (nor I'll never get it I guess regarding my age to begin flying) the level needed to feel the difference.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 11:45 AM

JB,

Are you bringing a Kymera to the Rev Clinic this month for try-its? Yeah, that might unfocus us a little bit, but to quote the infamous Gomer Pyle "GOLLY!". Pretty kite, and some of us still commute from the dark side to the "other side" on occasion.


Aye, won't be my primary focus this weekend, but it will see some solid air time and passing around. :)

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