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#21 clrizz

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 06:54 AM

Here is a progressive stack IKE threw together last weekend. The winds were more or less nonexistent, but it flew very well, even in the light winds. We did have some issues with reverse though, it may have been the lack of wind ;)


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Posted 09 June 2007 - 01:12 PM

OK You talked me into it. any suggestions as to how to tie these 3 together? Length, Points and could the origional bridles be left on and hanging or should they be taken off?

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 02:14 PM

OK You talked me into it. any suggestions as to how to tie these 3 together? Length, Points and could the origional bridles be left on and hanging or should they be taken off?

Thanks in Advance,
Jim,

You need seven train lines for each REV connected after the first one. Length no more then the width of the largest sail.
The shorter the train lines, the less pull it will have. But don't go too short as it will bow the REV behind it too much.
I would suggest installing pigtails at all seven bridle points of each REV. Then the train lines are easier to attach and remove.
Bridles are optional on all trailing REVs.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 02:27 PM

You need seven train lines for each REV connected after the first one. Length no more then the width of the largest sail.
The shorter the train lines, the less pull it will have. But don't go too short as it will bow the REV behind it too much.
I would suggest installing pigtails at all seven bridle points of each REV. Then the train lines are easier to attach and remove.
Bridles are optional on all trailing REVs.



I like the pigtail idea makes last minute decision to create a stack easy, Now all I have to do is order a roll of bridle line B)

Thanks I appreciate the help.
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:04 PM

What Rev models make up the progressive stack?

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:32 PM

well its a nice setup i espically like the b kite in the middle that is diffrent
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 04:13 PM

Something I forgot to ask in the event I wan't to purchase a progression stack will I have to contact a Dealer or Rev themselves ?
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 06:31 PM

What Rev models make up the progressive stack?

In the front is the REV II.
In the middle is the REV 1.5.
In the back is the REV I.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 06:36 PM

Something I forgot to ask in the event I wan't to purchase a progression stack will I have to contact a Dealer or Rev themselves ?

Try your friendly local dealer first.
Of course there are a few other dealers, mostly in the West who will ship to you. They are all nice guys, so I won't show any favoritism by mentioning anyone in particular.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 06:37 PM

I like the pigtail idea makes last minute decision to create a stack easy, Now all I have to do is order a roll of bridle line B)

Thanks I appreciate the help.

Bridle line is probably too expensive, but it works.
For a progressive, I would suggest using spectra of at least 90/100lb with sleeving. Even heavier does not make much of any difference.
What is nice about the heavier is that it does not knot up as quickly when you pack up the stacking lines. When packing the stack lines, I lay all seven side by side and tie them on one end, then the other end. Then I fold them in the middle and tie a knot at the middle. I wrap them all around my hand and put them in a plastic food bag. This is usually sufficient for me.
I am sure others have more sophisticated ways of handling stack lines.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 08:22 PM

OK great I do have some 200# pieces of laser pro from when I got sawed off by a 2-line terrorist (my own son). Brand new flown once for 30 minutes and without warning he wants to team fly using *sigh* Flexifoil line. 100' down to 65' in .002 seconds :angry:

I'll let you know how I make out.
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 08:51 PM

OK great I do have some 200# pieces of laser pro from when I got sawed off by a 2-line terrorist (my own son). Brand new flown once for 30 minutes and without warning he wants to team fly using *sigh* Flexifoil line. 100' down to 65' in .002 seconds :angry:

I'll let you know how I make out.

200# is Perfect! It would be best to sleeve them, more so to prevent knots from slipping then breaks at knots.

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 10:20 PM

Thanks for the pigtail idea, will make trying my stack easier.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 05:05 PM

OK tried stacking 2 Rev II's today in 15-20mph wind WOW what a blast.

I couldn't believe the pull from those 2 little kites I don't know how you guys do it with a long train.

I plan on trying a Rev II and a 1.5 w/4wrap next and from there add a Rev 1 for a full progression, I do see me purchasing a matched set now yet another way Rev has doomed me.

Thanks allot for all the help here's a couple of bad pic's (damn cam phone)

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 07:41 AM

ok, so I tried my hand at a progressive stack this weekend. I needed to play a bit. Flew well in 3-5mph.. and when I didn't have that, walking backwards kept enough pressure on the sail to make it fly..

Colors need help but oh well..

I also wasn't sure how to connect up the center leading edge stack line so I left it off...

Are all 7 lines really needed?

Has anyone tried a progressive stack of the speed series? Shockwave/Blast/Power Blast?

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 09:05 AM

Chabbman you must have no fear at all. To even TALK about a Speed Series stack.

Still I expect someone out there has tried it.

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 09:26 AM

Are all 7 lines really needed?

Has anyone tried a progressive stack of the speed series? Shockwave/Blast/Power Blast?


I do believe all 7 lines are needed, this weekend I tried a completely vented progressive stack,

I do believe I have found my preference. There was pretty much no oscillation with dead hovers, the control was amazing and obviously the pull was reduced.

I'm going to try a Speed Series stack with the Vented Sonic, Regular Sonic and the Shockwave, that one will require 11 lines total between each kite.

I may get brave and remove the Reg Sonic and put the Power Blast 2-4 on the back if the winds are light enough.

Now I must call the Mother Ship (Rev) and see if I can get a custom Vented Progressive Stack (hint Ben if you read this)
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 10:08 AM

ok, so I tried my hand at a progressive stack this weekend. I needed to play a bit. Flew well in 3-5mph.. and when I didn't have that, walking backwards kept enough pressure on the sail to make it fly..

Are all 7 lines really needed?

If you don't have all seven lines there, you will be placing a lot of excess strain on the rods of the 2nd REV and later. You will notice that the first REVs bridle goes to all 7 points, thus evenly balancing the strain on 7 points vesus 4 points. This bridle is preferably a non-stretching bridle. Also your first REV should, in most cases, have it's strongest rods installed.

Attached are photos of my first REV progressive train from the summer of 1993. The REV in the middle is a scaled down REV I. The original REV 1.5 came out a couple years later.
Who knows, this might have been the first progressive REV train.

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