[Watty]

kwmf, on 15 April 2010 - 01:43 PM, said:

Again, I don't know what I don't know, so I'm happy to look like an idiot asking a dumb question. Ever since I saw Watty's post asking how to fly an indoor on this forum I'm happy to ask anything

haha, I laugh at myself when I see that post XD

[Wayne]

John,

Love the tutorials, will be subscribing to Kitelife to get the rest.

One question, I have tried flic flacks myself before seeing your tutorial or that done by Watty ( http://www.youtube.c...h?v=YI2hL_SXQ-c ) with low success rate. Viewing these 2 videos by 2 experts, I notice that Watty does one yank on the brake lines, while you do 2 yanks on the brakes. I am not sure, but I am guessing this may be related to a difference of degree of rotation. John, do you use the second pull because you are flipping further than Watty and need to reverse the action to get it back? On the videos, the kite action does not look that different, maybe because it happens so fast.

Thanks for the help. I hope to try this at MIKE later this month.

[Kitelife]

Thanks Wayne.

It's a matter of leverage... My method is keyed to flip the bottom wing tips straight up, so I'm able to pop them again (same lines) easily in a wide wind range... Flipping further is what enables this.

If I pop the bottom lines and then the top lines, the recovery rate lessens and the flip is less pronounced... It also requires steadier wind to be successful.

Also, the bottom lines can be leveraged a lot more than the top lines, ergonomically, the way our arms and wrists function... Think drums.

The two methods are very different when it comes down to mechanics.

All imho, of course.

See you at MIKE, we can compare notes.

[kwmf]

@JB
Totally understood about street requiring various elements and wanting to put the skills down before doing connective tutorials. Once you've got a good base down I really would like to see connective stuff. Regarding an indoor venue, there's at least one other person who expressed interest, so it's worth investigating. I have no doubt you'll get enough contributions to cover the cost of hiring a venue - the tutorials are priceless to those of us with no access to highly skilled pilots.

@Watty
I'm kinda hoping that one day I can fly at a level good enough to come back and laugh at myself as well.


Collecting my Race Rods this weekend, so lets hope Murphy does'n't give me hurricanes.

[Kitelife]

Checking on a few things, I'll let you know about the indoor stuff...

There's a GREAT space literally six blocks from my house at the local college, might be able to get in for a fee if I go ahead with this.

[Aerochic]

Hey John,

I know this sounds ridiculously simple, but could we have a video tutorial on flying basic figure 8s / infinity curves? Furthermore could the 180 movement be a little better described??? It would be awful helpful when others are taking their first steps into flying with others as a group. :?

[Kitelife]

I've put it on the list Carolyn, good idea, will do.

Just waiting for a little free time and good weather, been pretty busy with events, website work, etc...

Nearly 20 more tutorials on the to do list now, in addition to the 16 already finished and online.

[kwmf]

Kitelife, on 23 June 2010 - 01:15 AM, said:

Nearly 20 more tutorials on the to do list now, in addition to the 16 already finished and online.

Plus the possibility of hiring a venue to do some indoor stuff to get that nagging South African off your back

[Aerochic]

Kitelife, on 22 June 2010 - 07:15 PM, said:

Nearly 20 more tutorials on the to do list now, in addition to the 16 already finished and online.

Understand. I know this is your busy season! The tutorials rock and have been such a great help!