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#221 bartman

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 01:32 PM

Good points, I'll do what I can Bart... While we'll try to illustrate those issues when we film a small grid, my solo video will focus more on the necessary skills and movements.


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Posted 13 April 2010 - 01:37 PM

"..., my solo video will focus more on the necessary skills and movements."




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Posted 13 April 2010 - 02:34 PM

We can do a "grid demo" video at an upcoming event, for sure...


OC in 2 weeks might be a good opportunity to do a "GRID DEMO"

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:15 PM

Remind me, I'll have the camera gear with. ;)

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:19 PM

At Delta Park now, trying to film... Wind is fickle, 0-5 variable, changing directions every 2-3 minutes.

*sigh*

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 06:04 PM

We were there last year for the first time and will be there this year. Can't miss it!! Please sign me up for the mega-fly. We'll be at the Thousand Trails with Watty and Grandma again - a week before and a week after. Ive been flying with the San Diego Kite Club

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 06:07 PM

Two (2) comments, brief because they are not terribly profound.

1. After flying in a 4x4 grid at the Rev clinic, I think there is too much over-thinking the thing. If you have the slightest interest, show up at one of the practice sessions. Then decide if you want to participate. :kid_smartass:

2. 2009 WSIKF my sister-in-law and brother-in-law witnessed one of the earlier attempts at the world record. They were awe-struck! And that was with all the novices falling to the ground around the edges of the formation. I don't think the NASCAR mentality is very strong in the WSKIKF audience. They are more focused on the successes and partial successes, and even the attempts that fail, then on any perceived disasters. IMO. They will cheer anyone making an honest attempt, rather that anxiously anticipate a crash. :P
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 06:30 PM

We were there last year for the first time and will be there this year. Can't miss it!! Please sign me up for the mega-fly. We'll be at the Thousand Trails with Watty and Grandma again - a week before and a week after. Ive been flying with the San Diego Kite Club


I look forward to seeing you there. :)

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 06:36 PM

After flying in a 4x4 grid at the Rev clinic, I think there is too much over-thinking the thing. If you have the slightest interest, show up at one of the practice sessions. Then decide if you want to participate. :kid_smartass:

*wild applause*

That's it, exactly. :)

FYI, I was able to do some more tutorials today, will be editing tonight... Also did a half-assed grid skills video, we'll see how it turns out.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 06:39 PM

Two (2) comments, brief because they are not terribly profound.

1. ... I think there is too much over-thinking the thing....



Hey, I resemble that remark! Posted Image

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 07:08 PM

Yes you do Bart, and we love you dearly for it. :)

While you may over think things, I think you often speak to the "every person" and drive good topics for upcoming fliers.

PS: I'm rendering the basic grid skills video now, it's not too bad... Seems really simple to me, like a lot of work for nothing, but eh. :)

Remember, it's not like we're going to do those spinning spirals of doom with n00bs on the line, no :censored: way... We work to the average.

We'll have enough very capable pilots on hand, we'll be trying lots of insane stuff in slightly smaller and more advanced groups at other times.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 09:23 PM

Here you go folks...

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX9IqV6Ed90"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EX9IqV6Ed90[/url]
(may still be processing - will be available in HD soon)

Sorry it's not more, but as I mentioned, I don't think there is an awful lot to it.

Some view grid flying as complex, and it's really not...

Basic grid flying is composed of a whopping 6 or so basic types of movements in various directions.

Do the individual movements with a modicum of skill when you're instructed to do so, and you're on track.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 09:28 PM

No spinning spirals of doom??!! Why didn't you say that sooner??!! That was the biggest crap my pants part of the whole tangled affair.

... so what is a spinning spiral of doom anyway? Posted Image

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 09:34 PM

Aye aye Tom, gotcha added to the list... You going to be at WSIKF for the full week?

Also, FYI, there should be a small article about the upcoming mega fly in AKA's next issue of Kiting magazine, so I'm hoping we'll see another surge of sign ups after that hits the stands. ;)

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 09:41 PM

No spinning spirals of doom??!! Why didn't you say that sooner??!! That was the biggest crap my pants part of the whole tangled affair.

... so what is a spinning spiral of doom anyway? Posted Image

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qbCgPJ8LN4"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=1qbCgPJ8LN4[/url]

It's really not that hard, it just LOOKS bonkers... The actual flight part is very doable, it's the mass of movement that throws most people. :)

Notice when he says "everybody back to grid" at :28 in the video?

Always amazes me how fast and easy it is for folks to go back to "home position". :D

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 05:45 AM

Now, if that video focused on one kite with just that kites neighbours on the edge of the frame then I would agree it doesn't look that bad. A simple (in theory) follow the leader.

Like you say, it is the whole that messes with the mind, but it is very difficult not to focus on the whole even though we're not supposed to. I know for myself not seeing the big picture and just watching myself and my next closest kites is a tall order. I need to develope selective vision to go along with my selective hearing.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:16 AM

John, that video showing the basic moves necessary for the mega fly was HUGELY helpful!:blue-grin:
Thanks so much for filming it and posting it here!

OK, now....(checks her calendar)....when is my next day off....I've gotta get out there and practice!:blue-cool:
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:16 AM

Now, if that video focused on one kite with just that kites neighbours on the edge of the frame then I would agree it doesn't look that bad.

No it wouldn’t, any video shot from outside the grid gives a spectators eye view perspective plays tricks on you, (see point 2 here), there is only one way to get a pilots eye view and that is to get in there and give it a go.

A simple (in theory) follow the leader.

Exactly :)
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:25 PM

Here you go folks...

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX9IqV6Ed90"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EX9IqV6Ed90[/url]
(may still be processing - will be available in HD soon)

Sorry it's not more, but as I mentioned, I don't think there is an awful lot to it.

Some view grid flying as complex, and it's really not...

Basic grid flying is composed of a whopping 6 or so basic types of movements in various directions.

Do the individual movements with a modicum of skill when you're instructed to do so, and you're on track.


This is good. Where do I get the kite that stays pinned to the sky with not the least bit of wobble?

I can say from watching this I have problems with quite a bit of those moves and have had for along time even with repeated practice. Backing up at any orientation is bad. Upright slide I've never been able to pull off.

I have a wobbly hover at all angles but that is improving each time I attempt it. I can do a 180 turn without taking up the whole sky to pull it off.

Unless there is a magic trick to some of this backing up business that I can quickly learn it is still troubling for me.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 11:19 PM

Hey Bart, remember that 5 minutes we talked about?

That's your cure brother, nothing like emapthic feel to get you over a hump. ;)

I think you'll be surprised at how quickly you adjust after that.

My guess is that you're simply trying too hard.

Tutorial on reverse will be available tonight or tomorrow.

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