[jburka]

Stephen Hoath, on 18 February 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:

Some people just have no dedication to kite flying you know!

I'll cop to that. If it were *either* the incision on my foot that's taking way too long to heal and joint that still needs PT, *or* the snow on the ground, that kite would have been in the air by now. But this combination is just a bit much right now...

[big bri]

We had one of the New Ltd Edition printed Revs on the Beech yesteday i ideal conditions for it.Also ideal to realy try and see if its the low wind kite of choice or does the B Series still get the vote for us.

The kite look kewl btw in the waves Patern.Does have a couple of issues for me though and its not the print,design,or any quality issues at all.I wont mention them,its a private joke between team mates and i think the kites owner needs to LIVE with it[i mean explain]

We set up on the Beech as a quad in very low winds[1-3 mph].

1 Printed waves - Race Rods
1 Masterpiece Martin Lester- Race Rods
Ok,my Martin Lester loves low winds,but the printed Kicked its ar,,.Drive was much better in the printed and the Masterpiece was streight away Heavier,,,,but its a SEXY kite.
Not apples for apples perhaps.


This was a great comparrisson though.
1 x Printed - All Race frame
2 x B Series std -All Race Frame[mine and kevs]
1 x B Series std - unknown rods? [borrowed kite of Neils]

I flew first the B series of mine.My settings.I had equalised my lines that morning.The kites like new.The settings very similar to what the Printed was set up on.Flew it in winds 1 -3mph,,,,,,Very Nice.Perfect feel to it,Afterall,its my kite and settings.I swopped with the B Series Kev had set up.Exactly the same kite,but with Kevs settings.Flew just aswell,but settings slightly diffrent.Less Brake than mine.I wouldnt have swopped him for mine,lets put it that way.The kite Neil had.A borrowed Team Kite that was exactly the same as mine and Kevs.Apart from the spars wher diffrent.Well,its fair to say.We all hated it,it was proper ODD to fly.I fiddled with settings at the handles.Which made it flyable,but the kite wasnt behaving like it should.
We all changed around and all noticed the diffrence between the kites.
The printed got the vote for best low wind kite from all of us,,,,,Not By Much Though for me,but thers a deffinate diffrence in drive,weight,and handling.Less movment required to create the drive was a very obvious diffrence.Basically,its a nice kite in low winds and a definate advantage if your flying team in these conditions,,,A MUST REALY,,,it does make a diffrence.We will have to have them....OR A ZEN[Zen not yet arrive]
What happend in 7mph and up around double wind figures like 12mph.Maybe a diffrent story.I suspect the B Series will chew its Ba... for wind range,handling and stability.I could be wrong though as i havent tried it at 12mph,but im guessing you would wana change around 7-8mph to a diffrent kite.

The kite that flew poorly.Had the following Rods.L/E had one P400 camo in it on the left and the centre spar was a P90.Along with the Right spar also was a P90.The verticles wher 4wrap[Rev equipped].Hardly ideal for the conditions.The kite was way outa balance.Everyone said it pulled to one side almost seconds after trying it.The lines wher questioned,but i equalised those that morning[i didnt let on].I flew the kite in team for around an hour.Comical was my findings.I couldnt stop laughing about its lack of balance and control.Compensated for it after a good hour,but it was NASTY to fly.

Conclusion for me

Printed does make a diffrence,,,defo.We will be ordering some when we have funds for team kit.Thats IF the Zen doesnt come and kick its wxyz[we shall see soon enough].The times we may have worked like dogs or struggled in team.When this kite could have given the edge or made that slight diffrence are countable on one hand,BUT IT WILL MAKE A DIFFRENCE having them.Ther Kewl.When you get down to minute diffrences and on the real edge that Zero and Low wind flying is.Ther isnt ever gona be a Massive diffrence,but you would notice a diffrence with these kites.Streight away.

The B Series is still my fav though.The slight weight diffrence i can handle,its just a nice piece of kit and a pleasure to fly.

The Badly set up B Series,just goes to show.The set up can and will make a diffrence with a wide range of experienced pilots noticing it.Having the kite set up properly is so,so important.Pointless having a Dragster and running it on two Cylinders or all the tyres at very diffrent pressures.

A good days flying in the main,,,,Intresting

BRIAN...

[kristalis]

Kewl!!!!!

Very interesting read there, coming from a low wind advocate as yerself. Been thinking of one for myself...but funds are thin on the ground at the moment (yeah yeah who isn't broke) What do you reckon to the custom printed design that Gonzales bros run.....a one of a kind with your own design?! Tast......OK I'll stop now

Thanks for taking time to share your findings..... Looking forward to reading thoughts on ZEN Vs Printed REV comparisons
any video BTW

Chris

[big bri]

No Video sorry,,,,never crossed our minds realy and it was a wonderfull winters day on the beech.A spot of Camera work would have been a great idea.

One thing that keeps niggling me about the Printed Revs and would compare apples for apples against the ZEN

WHY not make the printeds available as a REV 1 size.Like the ZEN.That would be very intresting also.

The deal thats on the 1.5 printeds atm.Makes it very tempting in its own right.A ltd Edition masterpiece,for SLE money.Then some extras and free postage.

Thanks for the appreciation btw.....

BRIAN...

[Jynx]

Bri ~ Thanks for the detailed info!

I was wondering the same and had asked about these kites some time ago... You answered my concerns!

I too appreciate your efforts and clear findings... Jynx

[big bri]

Hey Babe.How are ya

No need for concerns darling.Ther kewl.A real pleasure to fly.The waves would be my pick of the deal they have atmAlthough i would probably dream up some design of my own and go the whole hog.

If asked to discribe them in a word

SMOOOOOOTH
They are very smooth in flight.Must be some wind factor drag what ya ma call it happening,but ther silky smooth and realy easy to fly.

Have a great KP8 Babe,give Dave and everyone a big kiss for me.Take loadsa pictures Jynx.

BRIAN... I may have a telephone bid at the auction,,,,lol

[Jynx]

Will do Bri ~ And will truly missssssssssssssssssss YOU!

[kristalis]

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No Video sorry,,,,never crossed our minds realy and it was a wonderfull winters day on the beech.

No worries I'm only messin' with ya
.....sure you know yourself, by the time you'd have messed with the camera, tripod etc., sure the wind might've picked up then where would you be!?

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WHY not make the printeds available as a REV 1 size.Like the ZEN.That would be very intresting also.

We dare to dream.

Chris

[ChrisB]

After a little debate with "her indoors" psycho got our vote... and Euros.

Kite arrived last Thursday and had its maiden flight on Sunday at the club fly in at Duridge Bay, very light winds but kite was a pleasure to fly.

Colours looked good against a clear blue sunny sky, most strange this far north in the UK at this time of year. Looking forward to giving it a good try and fly it back to back with a different rev and set up.

So well done Los hermanos Gonzalez.

I'll let you know how it goes.

All the best

Chris

[dave b]

Finally got round to posting a few pictures of the waves printed Rev.



Flew it last weekend & have to say I made a good decision getting it after flying Steven Hoaths a few weekends ago.

As Brian said the wind was blowing 1-3mph earlier on in the day & the kite flew beautifully. We had a selection of different kites with different set-ups out during the day & I think we all agreed that the printed rev added something extra to your bag. Be nice when we compare it to the Zen.

Hats off to the Gonzalez Brothers & Revolution for a great kite.

Dave.