[Kitelife]

Ah, I'll add Mark Lummas to the mix... I think he's very capable.

Amending my related post now.

[Kitelife]

Also, any argument against the idea that Hoath and I are two of the primary intermediaries, with reliably good tact and a fair hand for all involved in a mega fly?

I feel like I should hand out tomatoes after a question like that, but I hope you all know what I mean.

[Felix Mottram]

Kitelife, on 27 December 2009 - 10:24 PM, said:

I'd also like to establish a consensus here...

As I see it (and I'm ready to be proven wrong), here are our primary proponents and principle players:

Mottram (Decorators in UK) - Extensive knowledge of team flying and the grid system.
Hoath (Flying Squad in UK) - Extensive knowledge of team flying, significant experience leading and organizing mega flies (including grid), speaks both English and French.
Barresi (iQuad in USA) - Extensive knowledge of team flying, significant experience leading and organizing mega flies (including grid).
Lummas (Too Much Fun in USA) - Extensive knowledge of team flying, significant experience leading and organizing mega flies (including grid).
Ben (Flic in France) - Extensive knowledge of team flying, significant experience leading and organizing mega flies, , but his English is very limited.
Hosoya (Team Rising in Japan) - Typically the leader of all mega flies in Japan, but his English is very limited as well.

Who else is currently equipped and recognized for their ability to lead very large flies?

Also, I think aside from any personality judgments or bias from fliers at large, Hoath and I are acknowledged as the most diverse and fair mega fly leaders.

Debate, correction, comment, all welcome.

JB,

I am not sure what you are getting at here. Both Jacob Twyford and David Ellison in the Decs have a clear grasp of Leading Grid Flying. It is something I simply do not do although in the lead-in to the Portsmouth/Bristol events I did draw out a provisional routine.

Ben from FLIC is an English speaker as far as I am aware.

I think that Stephen has French and Spanish.

Ashley Mottram from the Decs has basic Japanese now in case it is needed.

Felix

[Kitelife]

There you go, that's why I brought it up... It's important to identify all the leaders, and their respective skills.

Obviously my knowledge of Rev team fliers/leaders on your side of the pond is limited to my 3 week visit in 2008.

[Kitelife]

Is the list I started suitably amended for the moment?

http://www.revkites....dpost__p__63312

[Felix Mottram]

Kitelife, on 27 December 2009 - 10:26 PM, said:

FYI, I already have plans in place to help organize the grid a bit better at 2010 WSIKF...

Colored arm/wrist bands for each column, so they are "teams" unto themselves... Each band within a color numbered 1-8 to set the order.

"Blue column, to formation please."

"Blue leader, we're going to .... please explain to your squad."

Etc, etc, etc.

This will GREATLY speed up implementation on the field and cut down set up, as each colored squad will have their drills down already, in theory.

JB,

The grid organisation with coloured wrist/arm bands (numbers stamped on foreheads) had been part of our discussions as well...

The point is that we need a venue in which to 'lay out the guidelines/expectations' and make sure that the participants step up to the mark (in the parlance, I think)

The technology thing is good but a relay to PA is all that is really needed at a big event...

Felix

Felix

[Felix Mottram]

Kitelife, on 27 December 2009 - 10:48 PM, said:

Is the list I started suitably amended for the moment?

http://www.revkites....dpost__p__63312

Yes, no problem...

Felix

[Kitelife]

Agreed.

Silly as it may seem, I think an organizational title is the best place to start, then I can create the venue here on the forum under that heading.

[Felix Mottram]

Kitelife, on 27 December 2009 - 10:30 PM, said:

Also, any argument against the idea that Hoath and I are two of the primary intermediaries, with reliably good tact and a fair hand for all involved in a mega fly?

I feel like I should hand out tomatoes after a question like that, but I hope you all know what I mean.

Tact may be the key phrase here.

I will leave it at that...

Felix

[Felix Mottram]

Kitelife, on 27 December 2009 - 10:56 PM, said:

Agreed.

Silly as it may seem, I think an organizational title is the best place to start, then I can create the venue here on the forum under that heading.

Ah Cart, meet Horse... Fully understood JB!

I will vote for IRORTF as in International Register of 'Revolution' Team Fliers or IROR for short. (I roar!)

Felix

[Kitelife]

I'll buy that for a dollar.

International Register of 'Revolution' Team Fliers = IROR

Going once, going twice...

[Felix Mottram]

Kitelife, on 27 December 2009 - 11:20 PM, said:

I'll buy that for a dollar.

International Register of 'Revolution' Team Fliers = IROR

Going once, going twice...

I hope you get it...

It is late here so I look forward to hearing further news tomorrow.

Felix

[bartman]

Just sort of browsing this discussion.

How does one "qualify" to fly, for example at WSIKF 2010? Who decides? I may have missed some of this as this topic is quite involved.

Bart

[Felix Mottram]

bartman, on 27 December 2009 - 11:43 PM, said:

Just sort of browsing this discussion.

How does one "qualify" to fly, for example at WSIKF 2010? Who decides? I may have missed some of this as this topic is quite involved.

Bart

Hey Bart,

'You' are 'probably' qualified by default 'except' if you are found to be incapable 'on the day'.

Do you get it or do I have to spell it out.

Your peers will look after you 'up to a point'. (I think that your capabilities have been recognised/noted here along the way)

Best wishes

Felix

[bartman]

Okay, "on the day" may end in embarassment to be washed out so what happens in the air during one of these mega-flies? I've seen vertical hovers moving back and forth in lines. What else?

What does one need to shoot for in advance? Don't say "own thy hover"! lol

That may be vital, but what else? If I get there as the current plan dictates I want to be as prepared as possible.

Bart

[Kitelife]

Well Bart, bear in mind... The WSIKF mega flies are my show, if you'll pardon my bravado.

Bearing this in mind, and the amount of beach we'll have, we're a lot more flexible than what is being proposed in other countries, they have more veterans to draw on.

At WSIKF, there will be two functioning groups... The relative newbies to mega team, and those who have some miles behind them already.

Everyone will get a shot, and I'll work with each pilot directly, respectfully, and offer anything they might need to "make the cut" for our "pro" mega attempt.

Outside of that, we'll have one more open-style attempt on at least 2 days at WSIKF, this is fairly accessible to nearly everyone.

Beyond that as well, there is still tons of team flying that is open to all, for the whole week.

Best bet is to show up Wed, Thu or sooner... Get briefed, see what it's all about, be honest with yourself and let your friends help you.

Remember, you've not yet had a session with our clinic-trained instructors, so I don't want to you exclude yourself before you've had a fair shot.

Don't take it from me, ask Terry or any of the Island Quad crew... They'll tell you what to expect, both from me and the experience as a whole.

But I digress, this (WSIKF 2010) is a topic for another thread in this forum... Feel free to open it up, and we'll go from there.

[Felix Mottram]

Kitelife, on 28 December 2009 - 12:54 AM, said:

Well Bart, bear in mind... The WSIKF mega flies are my show, if you'll pardon my bravado.
<snip>

Bart,

I hope that JBs explanation is helpful. Every capability is useful <grins>

Felix

[bartman]

Somewhat helpful, but as JB suggests, it will need to go into a new topic for more discussion. I'm deciding how to formulate one that will get to the heart of the questions I have.

Bart

[Jynx]

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