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Do you want to see the shoutbox at the top or bottom of forum pages?

  1. TOP (28 votes [59.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.57%

  2. BOTTOM (19 votes [40.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 40.43%

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#1 Kitelife

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 11:55 AM

Hi everyone, just added "shoutbox" as a present to the Rev forum... It's kind of like chat, messages that refresh every X number of seconds.

First, if you don't care for the shoutbox at all, you can make it invisible by clicking the "My Prefs" button in the right of the shoutbox, then set "Display Global Shoutbox" to NO... Doing so removes it from the "every page" display, but you can still access it anytime using the Shoutbox link in the main navigation menu.

Or if you just want to show/hide it, click the little "-" or "+" in the upper right corner of the Shoutbox section. :)

You can also click the "archive" link to view past shouts from our members.

Enjoy, please do let me know if causes any problems... And remember, you can always disable it. ;)

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#2 Kitelife

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 11:59 AM

FYI, globally, I can move it to the bottom of the page (instead of the top), or the sidebar...

Majority vote will decide, speak your mind! ;)

Also, I can set it to only appear on the index, or all pages (as it is now).

At the moment, it refreshes with new shouts every 20 seconds.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 12:33 PM

FYI, globally, I can move it to the bottom of the page (instead of the top), or the sidebar...

Majority vote will decide, speak your mind! ;)

Also, I can set it to only appear on the index, or all pages (as it is now).

At the moment, it refreshes with new shouts every 20 seconds.

Just seen post, For me I would prefer it only to come up when asked and be at the bottom. Takes up to much screen real estate at top.
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Posted 25 December 2009 - 12:45 PM

Ooo, I love shout boxes! Nice addition to the forum John :) I like it up top.. but that's just me.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 12:53 PM

I like it at the top too, simple because if I want to follow the shoutbox, I'd have to scroll down *every damned time* I change a page...

This way, it's always at the top as I cruise around the forum.

Also, first time visitors may never notice it if it's at the bottom.

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#6 Kitelife

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 12:53 PM

Bazzer, hit the "-" button and make it go away while you cruise the forum, then "+" it back open when you want to see shouts.

See how that feels, let me know?

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#7 Kitelife

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 01:59 PM

Here's an example of the shout box minimized...Takes up one dark line, that's it. ;)

Thus far, votes indicate the it'll stay at the top.

FYI, I've never seen a shoutbox implemented at the bottom of a forum.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 06:59 PM

Just seen post, For me I would prefer it only to come up when asked and be at the bottom. Takes up to much screen real estate at top.
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Buy yourself a larger screen. Worked for me:kid_devlish:

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 08:30 PM

John,

Nice changes to the forum. Thanks to you and admins for the long nights to pull it off.

Quick question: The shoutbox minimization only appears to work when I am logged in. When I am not logged in, clicking on minus sign doesn'tdo anything. Has anyone else reported same?
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Posted 25 December 2009 - 08:31 PM

Buy yourself a larger screen. Worked for me:kid_devlish:

LOL anyone who knows my set up would laugh at that Manny! ;) Me have monitors ( bangs chest)
Yep John! the reduction button works just fine.
If it means hitting that each time I'm on the forum....I think I can manage that.
So for me a change of heart on top or bottom of the screen.
Leave it where it.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 10:47 PM

LOL anyone who knows my set up would laugh at that Manny! ;) Me have monitors ( bangs chest)
Yep John! the reduction button works just fine.
If it means hitting that each time I'm on the forum....I think I can manage that.
So for me a change of heart on top or bottom of the screen.
Leave it where it.


lol I just heard about how big your monitors are... lmao here .. hugs to ya

#12 Kitelife

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 12:34 PM

Votes have shifted, 12 to 9 for shoutbox the bottom...

As promised, I'm going to move it down for a few hours, be sure to comment back here with your thoughts.

Better, worse?

Mousie, I have a 28" main monitor with an 18.5" oveflow monitor next to it... Mouse and content travels between, continuous. ;)

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 12:40 PM

FYI, it would seem that nearly everyone who voted to put the shoutbox at bottom isn't using it to any great extent.

To this, I would suggest you disable the shoutbox altogether via "My Prefs" in the shoutbox section.

Those who want it at the top are using it quite a bit, and not just for idle chatter.

I don't think it's gonna stay at the bottom for very long... But, not sure yet.

As always, feedback is weighed fairly, regardless of the final outcome.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 02:24 PM

MadQuad has changed his vote but I can't change the poll results, -1 to bottom, +1 to top.

Makes it 12/11 as of this post, favoring the top.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:23 PM

OUCH, I got a -1? :kid_brooding:

Come on, I'm just trying some good stuff here... Trying to make it better.

If you've got an issue, tell me about it, I DO LISTEN (you know that).

[tantrum]An anonymous -1 is kind weak... Mark me down if you will, but find your berries and speak your mind[/tantrum]

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:29 PM

OUCH, I got a -1? :kid_brooding:

Come on, I'm just trying some good stuff here... Trying to make it better.

If you've got an issue, tell me about it, I DO LISTEN (you know that).

[tantrum]An anonymous -1 is kind weak... Mark me down if you will, but find your berries and speak your mind[/tantrum]


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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:39 PM

I don't like it at the top, but just turned it off now. I might have used it on occassion at the bottom, but at the top it was in the way.

I do find it rather interesting that you can see who votes and what they voted. Seems rather wrong for lack of a better word. Kind of un-democratic to take a vote then decide that only those who are using it should have their votes counted.

I didn't give you the -1, but I can see why someone would not agree for the my same reasons and do it. I would admit to it though if it was me.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:40 PM

Here's the forum view with Shoutbox disabled...

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You can still access it via the Shoutbox link in the navbar.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:42 PM

Noted Bart, however, it did provide insight into the user habits... It was useful to know, the folks who who didn't really use it voted for bottom.

In this case, it makes sense for them to simply do 2 clicks and disable it from the global view.

Without the user info, we wouldn't have been able to get the same reading.

Also, it does let them know it's a public poll, and the option is clear to "delete my vote" after the fact. ;)

When it comes time for other votes, I won't generally make them public.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 03:50 PM

Where does it say it is a public vote and your voting can be monitored? edit, oh on the screen where you actually cast your vote, but who are the others then since I can't see anyone's vote.

I voted for the bottom and have nothing to hide regarding that, but I do not see anywhere that it indicates my vote can be viewed. It should be between me and the system, that's it.

Knowing this may prevent me from voting on anything in the future where I might actually not want anyone to know.

My biggers concerns are with the remembering and moving me to the bottom of the topics as well as the inconistant top post list on the main page which today is showing just one. The other day it showed none so we're moving up if nothing else.

Bart

Edited by bartman, 26 December 2009 - 03:53 PM.





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