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#161 Jynx

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:42 PM

We - the rest of us not a WSIKF, could probably arrange to have you beaten for this. Just sayin'.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 12:39 AM

You will have to hold on tight Jynx.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 03:14 AM

We - the rest of us not a WSIKF, could probably arrange to have you beaten for this.

There is a very strong undercurrent of anger amongst all of us who are not at WSIKF for this teasing from Watty. I think a sound thrashing is the very minimum that justice requires. ;) ;)
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 06:05 AM

There is a very strong undercurrent of anger amongst all of us who are not at WSIKF for this teasing from Watty. I think a sound thrashing is the very minimum that justice requires. ;) ;)

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 06:23 AM

That's always been the use for sle rods! ;)

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 06:50 AM

Come on Watty Lad.Lets see this video.Im busting for a watch of it.

Thanks all for some intresting comparisons.Thanks for takeing the time and trouble everyone,its helpfull stuff

Watty,wher are youuuuuu :)
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:10 AM

Come on Watty Lad.Lets see this video.Im busting for a watch of it.

Thanks all for some intresting comparisons.Thanks for takeing the time and trouble everyone,its helpfull stuff

Watty,wher are youuuuuu :)
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 09:24 AM

One of the ATEMOC team members just sent me a link to a video he put together from the Bogota event. There are a few stills as well as some video of iQuad flying Zens:

[url="http://"%20<a%20href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvvMomcH0s""%20target="_blank">"</a>"]Youtube Bogota video by Jaime Castro[/url]

My recollection is that they were flying B Pros at the saturday "pre-festival" and Zens in the incredibly light/difficult wind at the Sunday festival.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 09:36 AM

One of the ATEMOC team members just sent me a link to a video he put together from the Bogota event. There are a few stills as well as some video of iQuad flying Zens:

[url="http://"%20%3Ca%20href=%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvvMomcH0s"%22%20target=%22_blank%22%3Ehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvvMomcH0s"%3C/a%3E"]Youtube Bogota video by Jaime Castro[/url]

My recollection is that they were flying B Pros at the saturday "pre-festival" and Zens in the incredibly light/difficult wind at the Sunday festival.


The link does not seem to be working...

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 09:52 AM

The link does not seem to be working...

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Try [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvvMomcH0s"%22%20target=%22_blank%22"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvvMomcH0s...et=%22_blank%22[/url]

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 10:10 AM

Try [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvvMomcH0s"%22%20target=%22_blank%22"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvvMomcH0s...et=%22_blank%22[/url]


Thanks. It works but appears to be looped! Oh well...

We'll get our hands on the kites eventually.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:57 PM

ROFL! I would love to get the video up for you now, but there is no way I would be able to do any sort of video uploading from here. XD

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 04:22 AM

ROFL! I would love to get the video up for you now, but there is no way I would be able to do any sort of video uploading from here. XD


Such a tease!

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 06:20 AM

My recollection is that they were flying B Pros at the saturday "pre-festival" and Zens in the incredibly light/difficult wind at the Sunday festival.



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Posted 22 August 2009 - 08:35 AM

You know theres going to be some video :devil: eventually......

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 10:28 PM

John I found this on

German Humberto Rodriguez Sierra's


Facebook Video Page, Looks like a collection of your Bug's Bunny (nice 360 and catch at end) and the iQuad routines in a 15 min Video

John B single & 2 iQuad demo's in 1 video Zen's are the white sails :)

John I have the video saved if you want to put it on Kitelife mp4 format

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 01:10 AM

The Zen is basically a pilot's 2nd or 3rd kite option, after the 1.5 series, imho.

Think of it like a 1.5 SUL, pilots should have a little experience (intermediate), but they don't need to be a Pro to appreciate the Zen. ;)

Release date and pricing has not been finalized yet.

We're looking at a possible January release (KTAI), with demos available for testing at WSIKF.



So am I correct that you would recommend a 1.5 as a learner's kite for light winds? In the midwest we can't count on much more than that. You think a 1.5 better than a Sedgwick?

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 05:01 AM

John I found this on
German Humberto Rodriguez Sierra's


Facebook Video PageJohn B single & 2 iQuad demo's in 1 video Zen's are the white sails :)


Here's another link to that video if you're not on FB:
http://video.ak.face...13308_30289.mp4

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 10:11 AM

So am I correct that you would recommend a 1.5 as a learner's kite for light winds? In the midwest we can't count on much more than that. You think a 1.5 better than a Sedgwick?

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In my limited experience a 1.5 B or B Pro is way better than a Sedgwick when learning light wind. A Zen is better still.
The reason is the center panel of the 1.5s and the Zen compared to a Rev 1, even if it is a Sedgwick.
A Rev 1 of any kind is basically 2 seprate wings you have to control.
The Zen and 1.5s have a wider (vertically) center which allows the use of the whole sail to hold the wind.
Which makes more sense to the question of which is easier? 2 seperate wings or the whole sail?

Just a thought.

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 10:38 AM

In my limited experience a 1.5 B or B Pro is way better than a Sedgwick when learning light wind. A Zen is better still.
The reason is the center panel of the 1.5s and the Zen compared to a Rev 1, even if it is a Sedgwick.
A Rev 1 of any kind is basically 2 seprate wings you have to control.
The Zen and 1.5s have a wider (vertically) center which allows the use of the whole sail to hold the wind.
Which makes more sense to the question of which is easier? 2 seperate wings or the whole sail?

Just a thought.

Dean


Since spending time with the 1.5 Kites after Uchinada 2007 I would agree that the depth of the centre area is advantageous. I think that the question is particularly interesting in respect of the speed series as well as I think that controlling the whole sail is the key but that the skill should be transferable between sail configurations and line lengths.

Felix




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