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#1 dazlarsen

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 12:46 PM

Hello all

I have just joined and want to say hello....

Right the question I have is..

Should I buy a standard rev or vented as I can use the vented in all winds.This is a question from a complete rev noob
who has only flown an exp that belongs to a friend.Sorry for the stupid question but I need help...
All the best

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 12:56 PM

Hello all

I have just joined and want to say hello....

Right the question I have is..

Should I buy a standard rev or vented as I can use the vented in all winds.This is a question from a complete rev noob
who has only flown an exp that belongs to a friend.Sorry for the stupid question but I need help...


It's not a stupid question. :-)

It depends mostly on where you will be flying more than anything else. is it typically windy, ie, beyond 10mph? Go with a vent. If it's more varied towards lower winds, go with a standard. Enjoy!
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#3 dazlarsen

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:03 PM

It's not a stupid question. :-)

It depends mostly on where you will be flying more than anything else. is it typically windy, ie, beyond 10mph? Go with a vent. If it's more varied towards lower winds, go with a standard. Enjoy!


Sorry forgot to mention I live in Colchester Essex.The winds vary but I am wanting a rev that I can fly in all winds
All the best

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:11 PM

Get a standard. People say you can fly Venteds in low winds with lighter frames, and that's true. But in lighter winds they feel very soft and sluggish, and certain maneuvers get very difficult (rising vertical side slides come to mind). They also require a lot of effort to keep in the air unless you're getting consistent, smooth light wind.

Standards, on the other hand, work very well the vast majority of the time. In higher winds, they pull a fair bit and become very sensitive—but they do fly, and you can mitigate the effects of strong winds to a great extent by flying nearer to the edges of the window. In lighter to moderate winds, they give a much more positive feel than a vented, as well as snappier control and easy access to the full gamut of available maneuvers. They also handle light-variable winds better because you can just fly or hover normally through lulls rather than having to stop whatever you're doing and work to keep the kite aloft. Finally, there is no doubt that a standard will fly in much lower wind than a vented. In fact, it's possible, with the right lines and technique, to do zero-wind flying with a standard.

Edited by kairusan, 02 June 2009 - 01:15 PM.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:41 PM

I find a mid vent is a good compromise:)

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 05:34 PM

Vented gets much more airtime than std for me on the south coast. But the semivents even more so! The only problem with the semi is you only get one frame set as I recall and not sure if this is reflected in the price.

Have you talked to those nice guys at Kiteworld. They are a good shop, sell revs and better still they are kite flyers in your neck of the woods. They should know what would be best for your winds.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 06:01 PM

Vented gets much more airtime than std for me on the south coast. But the semivents even more so! The only problem with the semi is you only get one frame set as I recall and not sure if this is reflected in the price.


Yes, I too fly my vented way more often than I do my standard. I'm just thinking from the perspective of if I was only going to have one Rev, which one would it be? In that case, I'd still take the standard over even the midvent, for all the reasons I mentioned above. (That said, midvents are pretty awesome and I'd totally get one if I had the cashola and bag space.)
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 12:07 AM

Yes, I too fly my vented way more often than I do my standard. I'm just thinking from the perspective of if I was only going to have one Rev, which one would it be? In that case, I'd still take the standard over even the midvent, for all the reasons I mentioned above. (That said, midvents are pretty awesome and I'd totally get one if I had the cashola and bag space.)



Hey thanks to everyone who has commented on what I thought would be a stupid question.I will have to check out the mid vent and ask a few questions.Once again thank you for all your help and I will let you know which rev I will get after a chat with those nice people at kiteworld... :) :) :)
All the best

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 03:23 AM

Hey thanks to everyone who has commented on what I thought would be a stupid question.I will have to check out the mid vent and ask a few questions.Once again thank you for all your help and I will let you know which rev I will get after a chat with those nice people at kiteworld... :) :) :)



Hi, There is a bunch of us who fly on the coast to the east of you, just along from Kiteworld, around 80% of the time we are using full vents, Rev 1's with the SLE are popular here too.
Early and late in the year we use mega vents quite a lot, just this last week or more its been well loaded full vents every day in brilliant sunshine, such a blasted hard life. :lol:
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Edited by Harrier, 03 June 2009 - 04:37 AM.


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Posted 03 June 2009 - 07:37 AM

It's kind of like asking, "I want to start playing golf, should I buy a set of woods, or a set of irons?"

:lol:

You will wind up with both in your bag. ;)
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:31 AM

It's kind of like asking, "I want to start playing golf, should I buy a set of woods, or a set of irons?"

:lol:

You will wind up with both in your bag. ;)

Exactly though I always recommend full sail first, there's nothing worse than a vented kite and low wind, at least with a full sail and a strong wind you can fly, it might be a bit challenging and you might have to be a bit careful but you will be able to fly. I also feel itís better for a newbie to have something a little overpowered rather than under powered as it gives more obvious feedback.

I find a mid vent is a good compromise:)

Well it's a compromise though I wouldn't say its a good one.

The mid vent is a good kite, I had a custom one made up to match an existing set, but I don't think it's good move as a first kite, neither fish nor foul. If you buy a std B series (or a vented come to that) you are only one kite away from having petty much the whole wind range covered (there is considerable overlap between the range of the std and vented), if you start with the mid vent you will still two more kites to cover both extremes.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:55 AM

Im with Bob.Dont think its an accident they dont do the starter EXP in a vent.UNLESS YA BURN HOLES INT.... :rolleyes:,but who would do that .
A standard sale is a prefrence for sure.Lift isnt so much of a worry then to a new flyer,more of a challenge if the winds higher

Just my 2ps worth

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 11:22 AM

Im with Bob.Dont think its an accident they dont do the starter EXP in a vent.UNLESS YA BURN HOLES INT.... :rolleyes:,but who would do that .

Woops! :blushing:
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 11:48 AM

It's kind of like asking, "I want to start playing golf, should I buy a set of woods, or a set of iron?"...


Jeff,

I really liked your analogy, until I got to thinking. There are quite a few golf courses where three strokes is par for all the holes ... one only need a set of irons. And of course, don't forget miniature golf where a putter is the club of choice. So, there might be folks/situations out there where a single kite is all that is needed.

Cheers,
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 12:38 PM

Jeff,

I really liked your analogy, until I got to thinking. There are quite a few golf courses where three strokes is par for all the holes ... one only need a set of irons. And of course, don't forget miniature golf where a putter is the club of choice. So, there might be folks/situations out there where a single kite is all that is needed.

Cheers,
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Well, stop thinking then! :P (And BTW, Miniature Golf is not Golf...it's "Miniature Golf." ;) )

My answer was a bit glib, to be sure, but the point of course was that there is equipment to cover the range of possible conditions, as no single piece can do that. So you need to look at what is most likely the most useful equipment to allow you to play as much of the game as possible...

So pressed for an answer to prioritize the order of acquisition, I would go with the irons...er, I mean the standard. I agree with the other comments about better to be a bit overpowered than underpowered. My first purchase was an SUL.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:37 PM

Well, stop thinking then! :P (And BTW, Miniature Golf is not Golf...it's "Miniature Golf." ;) )

My answer was a bit glib, to be sure, but the point of course was that there is equipment to cover the range of possible conditions, as no single piece can do that. So you need to look at what is most likely the most useful equipment to allow you to play as much of the game as possible...

So pressed for an answer to prioritize the order of acquisition, I would go with the irons...er, I mean the standard. I agree with the other comments about better to be a bit overpowered than underpowered. My first purchase was an SUL.

Golf,A game within a game i found.T to hole thers so many variations.

CRAZY GOLF FOR ME

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:50 PM

Golf,A game within a game i found.T to hole thers so many variations.

CRAZY GOLF FOR ME

BRIAN... :blink:

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 03:10 PM

PM sent


:lol: ,Reply sent

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#19 dazlarsen

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 05:11 PM

You have made up my mind.Its got to be the EXP!!!!Once I am confident flying it,I might invest in a mid vent or full vent or both depending on the bank balance.Thanks for all the comments,and help
All the best

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:45 PM

I started with an EXP, second hand off Ebay. Thrashed it myself. Now have 16 Revs.

Dont have the EXP any more. Gave it away one Day, now it is being thrashed again.




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