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#1 wufer

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 10:25 AM

Hi,
Ive just spent the weekend putting vents in my EXP just like the vented SLE.
Ive just been out to test my new toy and ive found there is a lot of bend in the standerd EXP rods.
My question is.
What rods do i put in for a vented EXP?.
I looked on the products page under vented SLE but cant find the rod size.
Thank you
Derek.

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 11:01 AM

Normally the EXP is not sold in a Vented version (to my knowledge). The rods that are shipped with the EXP are the Ultra Light rods (3 Wrap). Normally they are not labeled. For a Vented I would suggest getting a set of 1.5 Revolution Equipped rods (4 wrap) which will be much stronger. You can purchase either the standard size 1/4" diameter or the SLE rods (1/2" diameter appx.) The SLE rods is much stiffer and will remove all the bend out of the leading edge. You may like to have a little bend in your leading edge, especially if you are doing precision flying. BTW, the 1.5 leading edge is listed as one inch shorter than the EXP leading edge (don't know why this is) but it will fit right in with no problems at all. You may need to tighten up your bungee's on the sail a little but most of the time they slide right in no problem.

The nice thing is that both size leading edge's will fit in the EXP without any modification to the kite or end caps. The end caps fit over the 1/4" leading edge (what you have now) and they fit inside the SLE leading edge. Just slide the old one out and slide the new one in.

Hope this helps.

#3 wufer

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:27 PM

AWOC.
No, the EXP isnt sold as a vented model but i wanted a vented rev so i made one from my EXP.
It flys ok but as i said there is too much bend in the high wind range i made it for.
Thank you for your advice.
Ill try to get some SLE rods over here in UK, but if not ill give you a call.
Thank you
Derek

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:45 PM

Could you try putting the Le from your home built in alongside the EXP Le. Connect the standard Le then put the second one together and feed it in alongside the first. Use the end caps on the one, you should find the other will stay in fine.

Would give you a chance to try it out with a stiffer Le B4 you buy another??

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:48 PM

hey wufer any pics of this vented exp??
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 05:10 AM

do you have access to skyshark tubes over there?

The heaviest ones are the p-400s, but I use p200s in my vented revs unless the wind is so high the coast guard won't go out.

A vented Rev with the SLE tubes is for a howling wind, it won't even fly in 10 mph!!!

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 09:42 AM

Baloo.
No i cant use my rods from my home build as thy are f/g and thy simlpy wont fit in beside the original rods. Ive just tried. Thay are too thick.
antman.
I dont have a digi camara.Ill have to get one then i can post pics just like the big boys.
REVflyer.
Funny you should mention p200. Ive just ordered six from another forum for my next build which will be a rev 1 clone ( hope rev police dont read this ) !!! . So i might do something with those.
Regards.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 02:58 PM

In addition to getting the SLE rods you can also simply put 6mm rods into the existing rods as inserts. This works well, but frankly the best solution is to get the SLE or 4 wrap spars. My preference is for the 4 wrap not the SLE until the wind really picks up ...actually come to think of it, this weekend would have been perfect!

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 08:52 AM

Stephen.
Yes it was windy up hear in Yorkshire on sunday.
Thats when i flew and found out EXP rods are not designed for that wind speed.
Ive ordered some P200rods and some c/f rods from US for another build so ill sort something out with that lot.
Regards.
Derek

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 03:10 PM

Before investing in an SLE leading edge, try doubling up two EXP (3 wrap) leading edges... Works great for me. ;)

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 11:15 AM

Before investing in an SLE leading edge, try doubling up two EXP (3 wrap) leading edges... Works great for me. ;)




As you can see John im getting some rods from USA so ill sort something out with thoes.
And as for you saying "works great for me". From what i hear, you could fly a rev with match sticks as a l/e.
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Posted 12 May 2007 - 02:38 AM

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I know some of you have seen this before but ive posted it here anyway.
In the end i put .414 g/f rods from my home build in.
I had to change the rod end caps and bunji but thats all.
Now it will take anything our UK wind can throw at it.
Lovely.


Regards.
Derek.

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 06:26 AM

Yet again Derek, good looking kite. nicely done.

I was out in a bit of a ripsnorter of a wind a couple of days ago.

Venteds ROCK.

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 07:48 AM

Before investing in an SLE leading edge, try doubling up two EXP (3 wrap) leading edges... Works great for me. ;)

john how do you do this double up method ???
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Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:23 AM

With one leading edge already in the kite (caps off), slide another leading edge in evenly above it, then cap the 1st one (closest to the sail).

The second one doesn't need to be capped, because the leading edge is flexed and everything is held tight.

It's all in the B-Series DVD. ;)

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 12:45 PM

well thats something new that i learned with the revs thanks my man ;)
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Posted 12 May 2007 - 01:11 PM

Works well Ant, I can vouch for that.

Just launch it in the strongest wind then HANG ON. As long as you can stand up a twin LE vented 1.5 will fly. Or a 2 of course. Not tried any of the others yet.

Is the twin leading edge thing do-able with a SS?? anyone know??




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