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#61 Watty

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:11 PM

I've been planning on doing some tutorials myself. Mainly indoor trick tutorials, but some outdoor as well. I would love to see some new tutorials out there though. This sounds like a great plan there John. I'm looking forward to watching them.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 10:23 PM

thumbs up here. Easier for us limeys to get hold of too
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Posted 10 September 2008 - 10:56 AM

Great Idea,
Go for it, no worry's about regions.
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 06:58 PM

I for one can always use more tutoring...........YES, More Vids!!!!
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 09:00 AM

Thought about it a lot, there's just NO WAY I'm going to be able to fit a full length Advanced Rev DVD into my schedule


You lazy git, Barresi - I knew you'd wriggle out of it! Ya big girl's blouse! Let's have less time spent hobbling about kidding on you've twisted your ankle and more time shooting Rev DVDs in future!!

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PS 'Git' is an affectionate UK term for a... er.... well, git! TAXI!

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 10:17 AM

Could always leave you in the dark... :kid_devlish:

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 10:42 AM

Please Fraser, choose any words of reply carefully.

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 10:55 AM

Ha ha! It's alright Baloo - he's miles away - he can't get me. Ha ha ha! :kid_devlish:

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 11:44 AM

Please Fraser, choose any words of reply carefully.



I bet he always does Chris, model forum member is Fraser, he would make a splendid moderator. :lol:

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 12:49 PM

Exactly! That's what I was thinking! Ha ha! :kid_smartass:

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 01:27 AM

Exactly! That's what I was thinking! Ha ha! :kid_smartass:



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Posted 29 November 2008 - 08:09 AM

Since there has been interest in prevention, I would suggest incorporating body mechanics and proper stretching techniques (specific for flyers) in the video.

Cheers!

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:55 PM

Since there has been interest in prevention, I would suggest incorporating body mechanics and proper stretching techniques (specific for flyers) in the video.

Cheers!

Sarah

If this is a response to Gary's Jock post above, I think you may have missed the point. Over on this side of the pond a Jock is
Scotsman, not a Sportsman.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 03:39 PM

I'm still watching this thread, input is valued. ;)

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 05:06 PM

I'm still watching this thread, input is valued. ;)



John-

Fear of repeating myself...
Split screen scenes... show body (hand/handles) and show the resulting kite maneuver (to put a motion to the ocean)... ahhhh.... I mean... to actually show the how-to for various maneuvers.

It would be a great help (for us newbees) especially when you don't have someone to watch and learn from.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 05:25 PM

Split screen scenes... show body (hand/handles) and show the resulting kite maneuver

it's a great idea that needs to be pushed.... and pushed

you'd be surprised how much the team flyers move as well when you watch it in split screen mode! ;) ;) ;) ;)

(However this requires a lot of equipment and 'man' power and time... and organisation.... and then some)
but the results are worth it :kid_content:

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 05:27 PM

I'm still watching this thread, input is valued. ;)


John,

Let me make one more pitch for a segment on "how to teach" others to fly a Rev.

I know it sounds simple and intuitive ... each B-series has a demo DVD with some of the basics. But, I would argue that teaching Rev flying is a separate skill set. Good flyers do not necessarily make good teachers ... many times their skills are advanced enough they can't even remember what the hang-ups were when they were learning. Ben says he's a great teacher ... pick his brain. There's a YouTube video of Joe H. teaching a French gal to fly ... that's a good example of how to teach.

The video would lay out a learning plan and give hints on how to explain each step of the process to new flyers. How to set up the kite, what the correct brake set up should feel like, what, how and in what order to practice maneuvers, etc.. It could also serve as a learning video for the new flyer who doesn't have an instructor living nearby.

I would expect this video to be the most difficult one you assemble.

Thanks for again listening,
Tom

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:37 PM

This is a tough one for me Jeepster, as my teaching style tends to be a bit mercurial, depending on who I'm working with.

Different lingo, different skills first, all relevant to the personality at hand.

So start to finish, like grabbing someone off the street, it's different every time.

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However, I want to do two versions like this...

1. Grab a "Regular Joe or Jill" off the beach, and teach 'em, on video, start to finish, for what it's worth.
2. Grab a non-English speaking passerby, and teach them strictly with body language and correction, also on video.

The chances of doing picture-in-picture for this are slim at best, although I agree it would be ideal.

I will, if I can.

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The focus tutorials however, will be picture in picture, when applicable, and possible.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 08:48 PM

This is a tough one for me Jeepster ...

However, I want to do two versions like this ... Grab a "Regular Joe or Jill" off the beach, and teach 'em, on video, start to finish, for what it's worth.

John,

Again, thanks for listening.

Teaching anything is hard work and requires a unique skill set separate from that which is being taught ... or maybe it's a skill that is in addition to what's being taught. Thanks for tackling this part of the learning curve.

Please include a discussion of how the handles should "feel" when everything is set up correctly ... and what to change to achieve the correct "feel". Creating the correct setup caused me the most heartache. I've noticed that other newbies also struggle with the concept of achieving a balance in the handles so that one has to "tell" the kite to go forward. You explained it once as balancing the kite in the middle of the wind window with the handle force about your middle finger ... ring finger pressure moves the kite backwards and pointer finger pressure moves the kite forwards. It's such a simple concept, but one that completely escaped my understanding for a couple of weeks. Very exciting time trying to catch up with the kite, but a total waste of learning time.

Cheers,
Tom

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:08 AM

I totally agree with you Tom. Explaining and demonstrating the feel of a neutral handle set up is so important and the gateway to making progress with controlling the kite rather than reacting to it. Definitely the "aha!" moment. Particularly for people who have flown dual line a bit and apply that fast forward mindset to their first outings with a Rev.




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