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#1 nckiter

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 06:08 AM

I've seen a lot of discussion in other forums about quad sticks (magic stix, training wheels, etc.).

What are the current thoughts on these? Does anyone use them in competition?
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Posted 20 April 2006 - 01:57 PM

Hi, usually most of the best European pilots use the magic sticks in competition. I find that you can easily recuperate from any difficult dead position and the kite is more balanced in fly, you can more easily do tricks like axel, flic-flac, float, etc. If you add long handles and no bridle you can try to fly as Guido and Paolo. http://digilander.li...chooDIVX300.avi
http://www.micro-des...CeresaEC2003.rm
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Posted 21 April 2006 - 03:30 AM

Indeed, magic sticks are quite popular in Europe... They'e only used by three North Americans that I know of, Lam Hoac, Alex Mason and Scott Weider.

Myself, I fly the Rev I for it's precision attributes... I've never liked the sticks for my style, due to the added inertia.

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Posted 14 July 2006 - 11:32 AM

I don't think either Lam or Alex use the magix stiks, but I sure do!  Scottie Weider does some of the slowest and flatest axels you've ever witnessed.

I find they assist with a wider wind window (no more dreaded REV-stall at the edge!), also with ground recoveries and slack line tricks.  The single greatest benefit is a to allow a lighter weight frame though, because the sticks spread the energy or stress forces over a greater area.  My two wrap frames can take 10 or 12 miles per hour without damage.

It's a personal preference to be sure, but the benefits outweight the weight increase in my humble opinion.  

Teaching is a lot easier on the kite with this addition to the frame also.

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 04:38 PM

I watched the quadline competition at NJSKC today.  Three of the five competitors used them.  Having said that, the two best flyers did not (and they were several levels of skill above the rest also).  

I have some.  Donít use them.  Donít like them because the Rev can be flown without them with just as much control.
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:40 AM

These sticks sound interesting. How much are they? Where can I get them? What do they look like?

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 08:48 AM

These sticks sound interesting. How much are they? Where can I get them? What do they look like?

As far as I know, no one sells them. You have to make them yourself.
If you check back through the forum, there is a link to precise description with pictures somewhere.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 02:58 PM

if you can get the plans to make them i would like to have them ive been wanting to make a set for quite a while but cant find out how <_<
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 03:53 PM

if you can get the plans to make them i would like to have them ive been wanting to make a set for quite a while but cant find out how <_<

Look at: http://www.aeolian.c...o-maiocchi.html
There aren't any dimensions, but I am sure you can work something out that is close enough.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 04:21 PM

hey every body i actually made a small dvd on how to make the quad sticks for kites if u email me ill get a video out to you and it has all dimensions including diameter of sticks line lenght and all u need
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 05:59 PM

Hello everyone this is Steve's wife Sherri. The video that we made we sent to Rev for consideration by the board in offering the Quad Sticks or as I call them Sissy Sticks (cuz I'm a Girl), in a package for the beginner flyer. As a new flyer myself I find that I don't have to do the Journey of reflection (walk of shame) with my sissy sticks on my kite. I love them!!

The video is to large to email. And to long for YouTube. I will see what I can edit to make it shorter. Give me a couple of days to work on it.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 09:51 PM

Sherri, how big is the file?

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#13 stevepigeon

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 07:26 AM

The Video is 64.1 MB

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 07:32 AM

That's pretty small, by typical standards...

If you're willing, can you put it somewhere for me to download?

If so, I can add it to the Rev site, and give appropriate author credits.

Let me know what you think. ;)

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 12:54 PM

well if the video comes out or rev makes them it would be good i could use them for my messups
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Posted 27 March 2007 - 06:40 AM

Yeah, They sound like thay're pretty fun.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 06:13 PM

That's pretty small, by typical standards...

If you're willing, can you put it somewhere for me to download?

If so, I can add it to the Rev site, and give appropriate author credits.

Let me know what you think. ;)


Barresi, Sherri,
What happen?? How do we get to see this tell all video. Even if for some reason it can't be done perhaps the critical info could be posted. Like spar type/lengths, attachment points/types. :( Good, bad or in between I would like to try it myself.

Perhaps REVflyer could tell how to make a set?

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 06:27 PM

That would be nice. Expecially for people like me, with dial up.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 07:46 PM

Ive debated the quad sticks just because I dont want to put reinforcements on my sails. I understand they are a must to avoid damaging the sail with the pressure from the sticks.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 08:14 PM

End of the day, the sticks don't do enough for me (personally) to warrant the added weight and inertia during clockwork maneuvers.

From those that use them, please list the tricks and advantages offered by using quad sticks.

There are some for sure, I just want to have them listed here for the benefit of everyone.

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