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#1 nckiter

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Posted 27 December 2006 - 10:14 AM

I added an indoor to my bag a while back for those 0 - 1 mph days.

I've only flown it once but noticed that with the no bridle factory set up there is an incredible amount of flexing going on in the frame. During the time I flew it the wind was 0-1 with an occasional gust to 2. The kite acted like it was spring loading itself then zooming off as it recoiled.

Since I do not plan on any true indoor flying I was thinking about adding a modified "standard rev bridle" to stiffen the frame slightly for those puffs of wind.

Has anyone done this or have any thoughts on it?
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 10:37 AM

Well, the addition of a bridle wouldnt stiffen the frame at all. However, what you could do would be to get a leading edge set for a Rev 1 and cut it down to size. You'd need to replace the LE end caps to accomodate this and I'd recommend replacing all the existing fittings (ie, rod into rod connections) with "normal" rev end caps and bungie for some extra strength (which is what I've done with the one I'll use outside, my "usual" indoor remains stock)
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 10:57 AM

David, perhaps stiffen may not be the proper term. It seems to me though that a bridle connecting to multiple points on the frame would spread the inputs to several locations as opposed to just one, there by reducing the flex of the frame. Am I looking at this wrong?

What are the flight characteristics of your frame modification?

Thanks for the input!
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 11:04 AM

My original one came with those "normal" endcaps (one of the initial Indoors made I think). With respect to how it flies, its fine, it just bends a little less under load when I have the shortened Rev1 LE in place. I typically use this as my "street kite" on 10-20 foot lines.
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 11:08 AM

By normal LE do you mean a 2 wrap? Are you using the stock indoor verticals?
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 11:11 AM

I use the stock Indoor verticals but, with respect to the leading edge, I used a cut-down 4 wrap Rev1. I left the center rod intact and then hack some inches off of the other two rods. (and marked them with tape so I'd remember at a glance that its not normal length  :wink:
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 11:19 AM

Thanks David, I think I have some extra sticks around here somewhere, I'll have to try it.
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 11:26 AM

The black and white indoor in this video is the one I'm referring to, this was done with that LE in place

http://video.google....946296&q=ehquad

Concrete is rough on the "original" indoor connectors.   :D
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Posted 27 December 2006 - 12:27 PM

Nice flying David! Steve and Egan too! My indoor is the same B/W pattern. Definitely going to try your set up. Thanks for sharing the video!
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Posted 28 December 2006 - 06:07 PM

i have a 2 wrap le with regular rev end caps all around the kite the caps that come with the indoor suck on the 0 to 1 days i can use the advantage 1.5 le but anything stronger i use the 2 wrap i find that to be the best replace the end caps no matter what it will not impair peformance at all its eazy to
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 12:52 PM

The black and white indoor in this video is the one I'm referring to, this was done with that LE in place

http://video.google....7...96&q=ehquad

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Cool video. Now you got me thinking of getting one.

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 03:08 PM

everytime i see that video i now know i can try that close to my home wildwood is a blast at night
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Posted 30 May 2007 - 06:20 PM

I use the stock Indoor verticals but, with respect to the leading edge, I used a cut-down 4 wrap Rev1. I left the center rod intact and then hack some inches off of the other two rods. (and marked them with tape so I'd remember at a glance that its not normal length :wink:


David,

What do you think about using SkyShark P200 or P300 sticks instead of the Rev I rods for the LE?

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 04:30 PM

Everyone is saying instead of the indoor veritcals I use,,, or I replaced the LE with...I am going nuts What does the indoor come with?? :huh: I looked on the main rev page for the indoor and all over the forum and can't figure out what the darn thing comes with from rev.
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Posted 01 June 2007 - 05:25 PM

now I look back and monkey i should have asked you to do that night indoor fly with me and the gang in wildwood well mabie next year .. as for my indoor kite the 2 wrap rev 1 LE cut down does work the best
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Posted 01 June 2007 - 08:10 PM

Everyone is saying instead of the indoor veritcals I use,,, or I replaced the LE with...I am going nuts What does the indoor come with?? :huh: I looked on the main rev page for the indoor and all over the forum and can't figure out what the darn thing comes with from rev.
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Mine came with 2 wrap LE and verticles ("professional use only").

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 08:51 PM

Mine came with 2 wrap LE and verticles ("professional use only").


Ok! thanks., that makes it easier to follow what everyone is doing different to them. These forums and the info about things like this have increaced my rev fun 100% so I wnat to make sure I am following what is changing and why.

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 04:51 AM

Hi...


I am thinking on buying an Indoor for both Outdoor and Indoor flight and I am find the setup maded my monkey interesting....


Could any one place the video back on line so I can see it fligh????


thank you




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