Race Rods vs 3 Wrap frame?
Posted 27 December 2008 - 11:58 AM
I've a quick question regarding the use of either race rods vs 3 wrap frames in a VTD B-Series sail.
In winds of say 8 - 10mph where you typically use the 3 wrap only in a VTD sail, would it be the same as using race rods instead? Say under the same wind conditions and forgetting about the flex characteristics, if I were to use race rods instead of 3 wraps, do I have to worry that the race rods are more prone to breakage from sudden wind gusts as opposed to having 3 wrap frame? Would I see the same degree of flex if I"m using race rods (even though they are as strong as a 3 wrap)
Am asking because I'm contemplating having race rods in my VTD sail as a default and adding another 3 wrap only when winds get ballistic. Currently I have 3 wraps as a default in the VTD and add an extra 3 wrap to double the leading edges. Trying to squeeze a little more out of the lower wind range of the VTD but also mindful of the tolerance the race rods can handle when a sudden big gust comes along.
Thanks for the advice.
Posted 27 December 2008 - 12:30 PM
Personally, I would use the Race Rods in a vented sail up until around 10mph. After then, I would switch to 3 wrap just to be on the safe side.
Posted 27 December 2008 - 01:13 PM
I agree with Watty. Keep in mind, if you see the LE bending too much, you'll know that's a good time to switch to a stronger frame. It's a good basic rule for any frame/wind conditions.
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Posted 27 December 2008 - 07:17 PM
if the rods bend beyond an approx. 45 degree arch im swapping up a frame.
thats my 2 cents worth on personal preference.
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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:45 PM
They might be able to survive quite a bit more wind, but how many times do you want to take a chance?
If there's enough wind that the Race Rods are deflecting a lot, there is plenty of wind for 3 Wrap ULs or even 4 Wrap Equipped.
Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:53 PM
I also made an indoor REV 2 and use the RR on that indoors. Have used them up 30 on the REV 2 at WSIKF last year.
They sure seem tough for such a light rod set.
Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:20 AM
I have also tried mixing rods.Race centre shaft and 2, 3, or 4 wrap outer shafts.I have to say i realy like RRCentre and 3 wrap outer in my B Series.When the winds around 10/12mph.
In a Rev One ther also v,very good.Try mixing them ther also as above.again the RR Centre and 3 wrap outer is a nice combo i think.
Dont be afraid to try diffrent stuff with um.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:05 AM
Throw away your fears of breaking them. I have had them is a vented in way too much wind. They were far from ideal but I couldn't be bothered to change. But the point is that they didn't come close to breaking. Smacking into the ground with a tip many do it as carbon doesn't like shock loading. But breaking them by simple bending isn't easy.
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