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#1 Love2fly

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 04:00 PM

I've had this discussion quite a few times lately and need to know the final answer.
If the EXP is 92" and the 1.5 is 91" as stated in the Product list, are the frames interchangable? I understand the obvious diffences, but this has been up in the air for awhile, thanks.
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Posted 03 December 2008 - 04:05 PM

Frames are 100% interchangeable between SLE, EXP and B models.

The measurements you noted are sail, tip to tip.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 04:25 PM

Thanks, John...
Is it true that the EXP rods are longer? Also, what's the reason behind the EXP being that inch longer? Curious mind (mine) wants to know ;) .
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 12:57 AM

Thanks, John...
Is it true that the EXP rods are longer? Also, what's the reason behind the EXP being that inch longer? Curious mind (mine) wants to know ;) .


comparing my EXP rods with my regular 3 and 4 wrap frames they are exactly the same length . . .

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 01:40 AM

What Marty said.

Not sure why the EXP is different. :huh:

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 01:45 AM

Not sure why the EXP is different. :huh:

An extra inch makes all the difference.
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 01:55 AM

The B series is listed on Rev's site as having a 91 inch wingspan this is incorrect, the kite has three 31 inch spars in the LE plus caps it has got to be around 93in wingspan given the spars have a small manufacturing tolerance, the sails seem to be around 90-91 inches wide again some manufacturing tolerance.
The SLE is the same, have not measured an EXP.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 02:37 AM

The 91 refers to the sail. As you say, there is some tollerance, but this is roughly where it is. The SLE is indeed also 91, but the EXP is 92. The measurement on the website is the wing span, not the length of the leading edge
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 02:43 AM

The measurement on the website is the wing span, not the length of the leading edge


If that is correct it could cause more confusion with the Rev1 listing.


http://www.revkites.com/main/Rev_I

3X 36in sticks plus caps a little tolerance = 108in.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 02:49 AM

Yep, my I standard has a sail just under 107"
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 02:59 AM

Yep, my I standard has a sail just under 107"



Huh, could't make mine a lot over 106in don't matter how hard I stretched it, I must have held the fag lighter near the ends for a bit to long. :lol:

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 03:11 AM

Or I am using the that tape measure I bought out in China (Ask me to tell you the story of the Double Happiness tape measures one day!)
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 03:24 AM

laura its liked we talked about i have swapped exp to 1.5 tons of times ..
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 05:55 AM

the kites have different amounts of bend
built into the leading edge sleeve.

The B-series has a ton of bend, hence the difference in length.

The SLE tubes don't bend much, so they need to be shorter or they'll rip-away parts of the sail assembly.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 10:43 AM

Right Ive brought my kite bag in and measured the rods. All 1/4 rods measure 31 (un-feraled length in the case of centre pieces)

SLE rods measure.
Centre pieces 30 7/8 (un-feraled length)
End pieces 30 1/8

I had heard that the reason that SLE lading edges are shorter is down to the way the end cap is fitted, but that doesnt make a lot of sense to me as it would only account for at the very most. Im more inclined to believe that, being stiffer, the SLE rods need to be shorter as they do not bow so much under tension.

Whatever the reason, as you have already been told all 1.5 sails and spars are interchangeable, I have a complete set of SLE series sails and regularly fly them with 1/4 frames without any problem, at least not that i can put down to the setup.
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 10:49 AM

Or I am using the that tape measure I bought out in China (Ask me to tell you the story of the Double Happiness tape measures one day!)

If it makes 106 inches measure as 107, does it turn 6inches into 7. - nudge, nudge, ;) ;)
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 12:25 PM

Ok boys and girls. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but some may say we are very sad getting our kite bags out to determine 1/4inch differences between our leading edges ;)
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Posted 04 December 2008 - 12:40 PM

I give up, going to bridle my lawn chair and start a new fad. :P

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 12:57 PM

If it makes 106 inches measure as 107, does it turn 6inches into 7. - nudge, nudge, ;) ;)



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Posted 04 December 2008 - 01:49 PM

that trick has already been done,
or was it a tent bridles and the handles were attached to the lawn chair for "longer throw" HA!

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