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#1 antman

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:10 PM

i have been flying the last couple of nights at the parking lot and the winds were only 1 mph on my meter .. so i had the ghost equpped with the cut down 1/8 size indoor rods .. i really like how the kite peforms with this frame .. the race rods rock by all means but they dont peform like these do .. in a 1 mph wind my ghost flies so nicely.. much eazier then the race frame.. i really think that rev should do this frame for both the 1.5 and the rev 2.. if any of you have never tried this .. you got to its worth it.. i would love to have another frame so i can cut it down to a rev 2 to see if i can get that one to peform in the light stuff too
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:17 PM

i've actually heard of this done before on a rev 1.5 but never on a II. is the ghost an SUL or a standard sail?
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:23 PM

i have been flying the last couple of nights at the parking lot and the winds were only 1 mph on my meter .. so i had the ghost equpped with the cut down 1/8 size indoor rods .. i really like how the kite peforms with this frame .. the race rods rock by all means but they dont peform like these do .. in a 1 mph wind my ghost flies so nicely.. much eazier then the race frame.. i really think that rev should do this frame for both the 1.5 and the rev 2.. if any of you have never tried this .. you got to its worth it.. i would love to have another frame so i can cut it down to a rev 2 to see if i can get that one to peform in the light stuff too

Once upon a time REV did have the skinny frame(2-wrap) for the REV II. I have no idea what ever happened. You might be able to find a kite shop somewhere that still has a complete frame in stock hidden away somewhere.

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#4 antman

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:08 PM

john i do remember this too .. thats why im trying to get rev to understand that this frame is the best ive ever used out of all of them.. the frame was a rare find as i know it .. im sure you have seen more then i did but i did see a few in the early day.. im sure if more fliers can see what this frame is about in the lightest of winds.. they will be wanting these frames for all their kites ha ha ha ..i think the 2 kites that would be best for these are the 1.5 and the 2.. the b series would work as well if not better then both.. a b series super light ocron sail with this frame as a no sew would be the ultimate sul.. that to me would be a kite you could fly anywhere indoors or out
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Posted 14 November 2008 - 03:34 PM

what i forgot to add is possably some flex added to the rev 2 but in light winds it shouldnt be that bad
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Posted 14 November 2008 - 09:27 PM

hey if you've got the frame and you've got that gorgeous kite of yours ant-why not try it...it seems you like it
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 06:37 AM

here is another example of how much i love this frame .. a night fly with 2 mph winds and i didn,t have to move or walk at all .. it felt like the kite was flying on a normal day.. to fly a kite with eaze and look over and see the flags dropped was totaly sweet..im really hopeing rev sees this as i hope to someday see themm do this frame for the 1.5 and the 2


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wildwood night fly 1 to 2 mph winds .. flying with eaze
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:47 AM

Ohhhhh see I wanna try that now. That would be sooo helpful on those next to no winds days (which are far too many for my liking).

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:00 AM

Ohhhhh see I wanna try that now. That would be sooo helpful on those next to no winds days (which are far too many for my liking).


I wonder if anyone here got to try those helium filled spars that were available briefly some years back?

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:08 AM

I wonder if anyone here got to try those helium filled spars that were available briefly some years back?

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:12 AM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You obviously remember them well!

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:21 AM

You obviously remember them well!

A magical innovation, never surpassed...

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I remember on really hot days if you parked your kite in direct sun the LE's would explode from the helium expanding too much.

I'm glad they did away with them myself cost me a bloddy fortune in LE repairs

Aside from that they did work well indoors and outside in spring and fall ;)
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:24 AM

I remember on really hot days if you parked your kite in direct sun the LE's would explode from the helium expanding too much.

I'm glad they did away with them myself cost me a bloddy fortune in LE repairs

Aside from that they did work well indoors and outside in spring and fall ;)


Hey, surely the ones that exploded were the Hydrogen filled ones? They were the ones that burnt the leading edges!

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:14 AM

Hey, surely the ones that exploded were the Hydrogen filled ones? They were the ones that burnt the leading edges!

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:22 AM

Veterans:
Are you messing with us newbees?


Of course, but without malice!

There may be advantages in having weight in the spars, hence the accessories that may be offered to insert in the spars to increase momentum!

<grins>

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:27 AM

A jest of course, but with a serious side. During Portsmouth, when it was really hot over here, iQuad changed over from race rods to 3w because it appears the heat makes the RRs too soft and liable to snap explosively. Ben was saying that he is looking at making the RRs in silver so they reflect the heat better and thus avoid this problem.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:42 AM

A jest of course, but with a serious side. During Portsmouth, when it was really hot over here, iQuad changed over from race rods to 3w because it appears the heatmakes the RRs too soft and liable to snap explosively. Ben was saying that he is looking at making the RRs in silver so they reflect the heat better and this avoid this problem.


Was it really hot?

I do not remember exploding spars at Portsmouth.

The last time I experienced it was at an event at Newbury, many years ago. I do not think that it was my kite but another in the team. We used to carry a big bag of spare spars but strangely the spar fairy has not put in an appearance for some time now. I may regret saying that as I am also on borrowed time with the puncture fairy on the commuting bicycle!

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 10:04 AM

Hey, surely the ones that exploded were the Hydrogen filled ones? They were the ones that burnt the leading edges!

Felix

We didn't think anyone noticed when we changed.
It surely gives you the upper edge especially when the wind drops.
The actual spar that we were trying is the Helioboron rod.
That was the version 4 of this rod that Ben had been working on. I think the silver paint is in the next version.
It's nearly there apart from when it blows up.
When it explodes it looks like a witches broom stick. Nice red flame though!
The Boron is also really pointy and brittle when broken. You have to make sure you pick up all of the shards as it isn't really dog friendly.
I think the Helium softens the inner core slightly as it get hotter.
Luckily none of them blew during the display although there was a nasty incident back in the hotel room.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 10:21 AM

We didn't think anyone noticed when we changed.
It surely gives you the upper edge especially when the wind drops.
The actual spar that we were trying is the Helioboron rod.

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The standard weights are lead, as I understand it.

Are you using heavier elements to maintain momentum in the lighter rods?

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 10:32 AM

Y'all are SICK. *smacks the lot of you!* :lol:

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