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#1 Choccy

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:36 PM

It's probably been mentioned elsewhere but I can't find it ATM.

What do ppl put on their lines when they become sticky ?

Our new 120 foot lines (LPG) have always been sticky to the point where
the friction due to spins or team wrap ups become an issue.
Some of the worlds best flyers have tried our lines and agree they are not 'slippery' enough.

Lock ups happen much faster which is not desirable when you are starting out in team flying.

What products to avoid putting on the lines ?

This is one of the main reasons why I use 1 winder and unwind/wind just the
left pair then right pair separately but on top of one another to save time with the tangles.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:40 PM

Sewer's aid is good. If you bring a rag to funstable we can put some on. Alternatively silicone spray from halfords applied with a cloth.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:47 PM

Cheers J.
I like the sound of Funstable :D

I'll try to remember to bring a rag.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:29 AM

I assume you've bathed with them Choccy? Sailor recommends Wash n'Go

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:48 AM

I assume you've bathed with them Choccy? Sailor recommends Wash n'Go

you assume incorrectly :confused!: :blushing: :lol:

Is that what you do with yours then ? (chuckle)

Does he now ? ;)
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:06 AM

you assume incorrectly :confused!: :blushing: :lol:

Is that what you do with yours then ? (chuckle)

Does he now ? ;)

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 10:40 AM

I've been using Silicone spray lubricant for years on my lines. I get it in the Auto supplies department of large hardware stores/ironmonger's.

If your lines have been used at the beach, they might be salt-encrusted, so a wash/rinse is a very good idea. I put the winders in hot soapy water in the sink and try to work the suds in thoroughly and then rinse well with running water and let dry.

For lubricating the lines, I first wind the lines out and stake an end, then "milk" any twists out by pinching a line between finger and thumbnail and walk each line a few times to work the twists down to the end, so it can untwist. Having twists in your line adds friction, so it's best to work the twists out first.

Next I take a clean piece of cloth and saturate it with the silicone spray and walk the length of the lines again, usually a pair at a time.

If you wrap on a winder, you can quickly do it by spraying the wrapped line, making sure that it soaks in, then wipe any residue off the winder. (I wrap on the handles, so that's out for me.)

It doesn't work miracles, but has turned my beach lines that would start to squeak and bind after 2 or 3 wraps into lines that were good for a half dozen wraps with good control.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 11:21 AM

Cool info Steve thanks :)
Will try it.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:33 PM

Ok, so I say "Silcone spray from Halfords" and she says "Thanks but I'll use some of your sewers' aid".

Steve says "Silicone spray from your autoshop" and she says "Cool info Steve ;)"

What gives?

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:46 PM

I'd go with the sewers aid myself, with silicone you have to reapply more frequently.

What I would like to know is HOW they became sticky (or maybe not) did they get melted somehow from overheating because laser pro is very slick maybe they are a bad batch or contaminated somehow.

Before you treat them I would suggest giving the a quick soap and water wash before hand as to not just cover up a potential problem.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:49 PM

I have to say FF, all the LP I have had has been pretty sticky compared to say climax.....
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:54 PM

Ok, so I say "Silcone spray from Halfords" and she says "Thanks but I'll use some of your sewers' aid".

Steve says "Silicone spray from your autoshop" and she says "Cool info Steve ;)"

What gives?

:)

I'm just bringing a rag/cloth.
whatever you choose to apply is fine by me :D
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:12 PM

I've been using Silicone spray lubricant for years on my lines. I get it in the Auto supplies department of large hardware stores/ironmonger's.

I agree with steveb and his procedure for cleaning and coating the lines with silicon spray. I have been doing this since day one and still have good Shanti lines that are well over 10 years old.
I never tried Sewer's Aid, thus I do not have any opinion on it.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:27 PM

I have to say FF, all the LP I have had has been pretty sticky compared to say climax.....


Thats quite interesting, now do you know if what you have for lines are laser pro or laser pro gold yes there is a bit of a difference I realized this when looking through my bag I have 1 set of standard laser pro and I wasn't impressed with them.

Laser pro gold is stiff wiry and waxy which gives it it's slickness. The regular laser pro is much softer and flexible which to me makes it less desirable for spins and team stuff.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:38 PM

I've never tried silicone on Laser Pro Gold, just on Laser Pro Comp, Shanti, Berry Blue, various off-brand Spectra and Tuf-Line Plus.
All have a softer hand than LPG and don't have its hard/waxy coating.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 02:40 PM

how many hours of flight are typically on lines before you find that this is necessary the first time? then on after that???

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:06 PM

You'll notice when it's time to clean and treat your lines. It's not really a time thing. After about 5 wraps or sometimes less if you start feeling resistance to your inputs it's a good time. I can get about 8 wraps into my 50' lines before I start feeling the friction. And these lines are at least 12 years old. And have never been treated. (old dual line lines that have seen some pairs time. Needed lighter quad lines, what can I say.)

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 01:27 AM

I followed the advice given here and tried the CRC 3 in 1 silicon spray and it made a difference. I decided to wash them in warm soapy water and rinse well and fly them dry again. (They are Laser pro gold) I finally found Sewers Aid in Aussie and put some on a cloth and ran it along each line just as I hade with the silicon spray. The results dumbfounded me. This stuff is magic and lines are almost like new to use again. No dirt attraction at all. Make sure you go with this stuff it is first class. I haven't recoated for about 20 hrs flying so far.
Thanks guys for your valuable knowledge.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 06:53 AM

I finally found Sewers Aid in Aussie and put some on a cloth and ran it along each line

Chook



Isn't the English language amazing, when I first read this I thought:

Sanitary sewer, a system of pipes used to transport human waste

Then I searched Google and found this:

Sewers Aid is especially useful for the home-sewer. Sewers Aid applied sparingly to spool and bobbin thread
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Posted 31 May 2009 - 10:57 AM

Isn't the English language amazing, when I first read this I thought:

Sanitary sewer, a system of pipes used to transport human waste

Then I searched Google and found this:

Sewers Aid is especially useful for the home-sewer. Sewers Aid applied sparingly to spool and bobbin thread


Glad you googled that Mike, I'm thinking where do you get Sewers Aid? Home Depot? Doh !! :confused!: :doh: Will have to give it a try!
Thanks Mike,
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