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#1 Guest_groz_*

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 12:37 PM

I noticed something interesting tonight (well to me anyway!) while setting up before flying:
It was very cold here (around 4 degrees centigrade) and with 40 mile winds the wind chill took the temperature down much lower.
I noticed two things: 1. The lines seemed a lot stiffer and so took longer to de-twist (when it's warm, you can run a finger between them to separate) and 2. the leading edge shafts are a lot harder to insert (tighter fit).

I was flying only a few hours before when it was a lot warmer and no such problems.
I was wondering if anybody else had noticed this, and if there are any techniques that help when flying in exteme conditions (i am sure some of you fly at even lower temperatures too)

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 01:58 PM

well i never flew a kite in 4 degree weather however flying in the cold is slightly diffrent .. the lines get a little stiff .. twisting and untwisting have been the same to me cold or warm weather
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 05:08 PM

Only thing I can add is the only time I have broken spars from normal (not crashing) flying was in cold weather, not only do the lines get stiffer but the frame tends to become much more brittle and delicate which makes alot of sense.

I tend to use a tad bit stiffer rods to keep the bend down to a minimum in extreme cold. Oh and a good flask of scotch :kid_smartass:
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 03:55 AM

My fingers seem a lot stiffer, but other than that, I haven't noticed much difference. I usually don't fly in the winter unless its above -5C ( 20F).
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 04:58 AM

well the warm weather is here now .. thats for sure
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 05:16 AM

I've flown in sub 5 C quite a bit this Winter, (though not in 40 knot brr-rr-rrr winds) and hadn't noticed much difference in handling the lines or assembling the kite. It could be that my old lines have all the life beaten out of them and remain easy to handle, in spite of the chill.

It's been quite a while since I've flown in really cold temperatures though- my record was -20 something, but it was a in fairly light winds. I found that plastic and vinyl parts became extremely brittle. A 1" diameter vinyl tubing centre T snapped like glass when my brother-in-law had a mild crash.

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 07:50 AM

I noticed something interesting tonight (well to me anyway!) while setting up before flying:
It was very cold here (around 4 degrees centigrade) and with 40 mile winds the wind chill took the temperature down much lower.
I noticed two things: 1. The lines seemed a lot stiffer and so took longer to de-twist (when it's warm, you can run a finger between them to separate) and 2. the leading edge shafts are a lot harder to insert (tighter fit).

I was flying only a few hours before when it was a lot warmer and no such problems.
I was wondering if anybody else had noticed this, and if there are any techniques that help when flying in exteme conditions (i am sure some of you fly at even lower temperatures too)

All the best
Groz

The lines might have a slight stiffness due more to moisture in the line that has frozen.
The biggest problem I had was snow from the previous day that had frozen on the surface. The lines catch on it.
Now I am in a year around climate, thus I don't have these problems anymore.

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 11:24 AM

Finally the warmer weather has hit southern England this weekend, and my lines are once again under control, and inserting the leading edge spars is nice and easy again. Only problem is, the warm weather has brought out all the 'Numpties' with their power kites with veeeeeeery long lines, that seem to take up the whole flying area.

Still, at least us Rev flyers are under control (most of the time)

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 11:33 AM

Finally the warmer weather has hit southern England this weekend,

Where was that then Groz! Did you nip down to Cannes this weekend? I was out flying this morning at Danebury with my woolly hat, gloves and thermos (sad, but true).
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 01:35 AM

Where was that then Groz! Did you nip down to Cannes this weekend? I was out flying this morning at Danebury with my woolly hat, gloves and thermos (sad, but true).

Much the same here in the lands of the East Angles, thick mist being blown ashore on very fresh easterly breeze, warm it was not, still, we managed to get 5 hours flying in.
btw Groz, windchill does not affect spar temperature much at all and I hope temperature aint a problem for CFC's, rather a lot of big planes relying heavily on the stuff now including the Airbus 380 along with the new Typhoon

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 01:54 AM

Down here in the tropical South it was all ice creams and 'kiss me slow' hats on the beach yesterday got 3 hours excellent flying in and my first tan of the year ... of course the chav with dog to inteligence ratio was well into the negative and as a result I am one line set down!

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 02:54 AM

Only problem is, the warm weather has brought out all the 'Numpties' with their power kites with veeeeeeery long lines, that seem to take up the whole flying area.

You omitted the out of control nature of such beasts with their extra long "strings"

They are all noise and testosterone with no skill I'm afraid. :blue-confused:
tres boring too.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:59 AM

They are all noise and testosterone with no skill I'm afraid. :blue-confused:
tres boring too.

Oh I don't know. When you get someone really skilled on a AT Board I think it's pretty impressive.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:11 AM

Oh I don't know. When you get someone really skilled on a AT Board I think it's pretty impressive.


AT board ?

You didn't see this guy though. <_<
He nearly sliced his own kid's head off :wacko: :pinch:
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:14 AM

AT=All Terrain

If he missed he cannot have been that skilled :devil:
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:16 AM

AT=All Terrain

If he missed he cannot have been that skilled :devil:

:lol:
Ah, he wasn't on a board or buggy.
Just wanging it back n forth whilst yelling.
Hence dull and annoyingly selfish.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:03 AM

Oh I don't know. When you get someone really skilled on a AT Board I think it's pretty impressive.

You are right Jeremy, here is one with such talents, an off duty Rev flyer,
Rob_boarding.jpg
I suppose we are kiters first and foremost and tend to fly anything, power kites figure too, we share our flying areas with power kiters and it is not a problem, yeh sure, one or two might be a tad loud but they certainly have some skill and we get along fine, in fact we have handed our handles over to one or two to try and now we have even more folk here with Revs.
One of the new Rev flyers being Stu, "trumpet" on this forum who now has two Revs.
All the kiting folk I have met while flying kites have been fun and we have gotten along fine, s'pose we are just lucky.

The same off duty Rev flyer showing me how one of my kites will fly should I be up to it, which I ain't.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:50 AM

You are indeed fortunate to have a big space...

we don't have a large space to play in.
We fly power kites also and do so respectfully.

However it's not pleasant to share a tiny space with a guy like this with his Flexifoil super 10. :blue-confused:

Other power kiters weren't behaving this way.
Shame.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:52 AM

...here is one with such talents, an off duty Rev flyer,

Is that skunky in that picture?
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 09:26 AM

Is that skunky in that picture?


Yup thats him, and him clock turning and inverted sliding the NPW.




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